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]]> By: muirgeo http://cafehayek.com/2008/01/stimulus.html/comment-page-1#comment-20640 muirgeo Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:11:20 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3439#comment-20640 <p>And once again, for Muirgeo, to say that there is no such thing as a free market is to say that we are slaves. </p> <p>Posted by: Randy </p> <p><br /> No we are not slaves. But to think that we are completely independent entities is unrealistic to. If you want complete freedom and independence then go live alone in the wilderness. You want the benifits of society then you will have to reliquish minor freedoms and recognize some debt to society. </p> <p> You don't get to be in the club for free.</p> <p>Your position is like some one who wants a room mate to share rent but still wants the apartment all to himself. It's a selfish and unrealistic position. It's NOT how society works.</p> <p> YOU ARE NOT independent and there are NO FREE MARKETS.</p> And once again, for Muirgeo, to say that there is no such thing as a free market is to say that we are slaves.

Posted by: Randy

No we are not slaves. But to think that we are completely independent entities is unrealistic to. If you want complete freedom and independence then go live alone in the wilderness. You want the benifits of society then you will have to reliquish minor freedoms and recognize some debt to society.

You don't get to be in the club for free.

Your position is like some one who wants a room mate to share rent but still wants the apartment all to himself. It's a selfish and unrealistic position. It's NOT how society works.

YOU ARE NOT independent and there are NO FREE MARKETS.

]]> By: muirgeo http://cafehayek.com/2008/01/stimulus.html/comment-page-1#comment-20639 muirgeo Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:04:14 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3439#comment-20639 <p>You've never bought a t-shirt?</p> <p>Posted by: Mark </p> <p><br /> I admitted I do. But I don't by t-shirts made from child labor. And the big companies who make the shirts have to follow the rules for corporations, banking and finance. They don't operate in a free market but a regulated one. They have to pay back some of their revenue to pay for the roads and infrastructure that allows them to have a functional business.</p> <p>Anyway thanks for the Friedman reference. I'll watch those videos. Actually I'm reading Capitalism and Freedom right now.</p> You've never bought a t-shirt?

Posted by: Mark

I admitted I do. But I don't by t-shirts made from child labor. And the big companies who make the shirts have to follow the rules for corporations, banking and finance. They don't operate in a free market but a regulated one. They have to pay back some of their revenue to pay for the roads and infrastructure that allows them to have a functional business.

Anyway thanks for the Friedman reference. I'll watch those videos. Actually I'm reading Capitalism and Freedom right now.

]]> By: Randy http://cafehayek.com/2008/01/stimulus.html/comment-page-1#comment-20638 Randy Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:50:50 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3439#comment-20638 <p>Voluntary markets then? Okay. That works for me.</p> Voluntary markets then? Okay. That works for me.

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