Comments on: Pennies from Heaven http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html where orders emerge Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:06:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: DJ LoKey http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26800 DJ LoKey Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:04:21 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26800 <p>Film is the same as recorded music. Anytime sound is reproduced it loses quality, also when things are live you can use all your senses to take in the whole experience.</p> Film is the same as recorded music. Anytime sound is reproduced it loses quality, also when things are live you can use all your senses to take in the whole experience.

]]> By: jp http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26799 jp Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:41:20 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26799 <p>Pennies from Heaven -- possibly the most depressing movie I have ever seen.</p> Pennies from Heaven — possibly the most depressing movie I have ever seen.

]]> By: vidyohs http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26792 vidyohs Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:29:14 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26792 <p>Russ,</p> <p>I did read the word "were", and I still made my comment because in my eyes there are no "free" things. </p> <p>Even viewing pretty flowers means making and effort to get up and go as all those pretty flowers don't (didn't) grow within eyesight of Homo Erectus.</p> <p>And, how do we know our Homo Erectus kin did not appreciate beauty in all its forms?</p> <p>Then is beauty the only "best thing in life"?</p> <p>I suggest that to a hungry Homo Erectus a good juicy bison steak would qualify as a "best thing in life". But, bison steaks didn't fall from heaven and though there were lots of bison around and they weren't the most difficult animal to hunt, ole Homo Erectus still had to get up and go do the killing (work).</p> <p>I'm sorry but I didn't see work or effort in the lyrics, just be there with your umbrella upside down and it will be filled.</p> <p>I have an excellent imagination but this time it let me down, I guess.</p> <p>BTW, tweren't calling you a socialist, just saying I see the "magic wand" philosophy in the song and you seem to see something else.</p> Russ,

I did read the word "were", and I still made my comment because in my eyes there are no "free" things.

Even viewing pretty flowers means making and effort to get up and go as all those pretty flowers don't (didn't) grow within eyesight of Homo Erectus.

And, how do we know our Homo Erectus kin did not appreciate beauty in all its forms?

Then is beauty the only "best thing in life"?

I suggest that to a hungry Homo Erectus a good juicy bison steak would qualify as a "best thing in life". But, bison steaks didn't fall from heaven and though there were lots of bison around and they weren't the most difficult animal to hunt, ole Homo Erectus still had to get up and go do the killing (work).

I'm sorry but I didn't see work or effort in the lyrics, just be there with your umbrella upside down and it will be filled.

I have an excellent imagination but this time it let me down, I guess.

BTW, tweren't calling you a socialist, just saying I see the "magic wand" philosophy in the song and you seem to see something else.

]]> By: Russ Roberts http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26798 Russ Roberts Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:53:13 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26798 <p>Vidyohs,</p> <p>Read the words again.</p> <p>"The best things in life *were* absolutely free."</p> <p>That's the way the world was a million years ago. But no one appreciated beauty or grandeur in a world where it was commonplace and acquired without effort, a world where everything was free.</p> <p>In the real world, today's world, the world we live in, beauty only has meaning because there is ugliness. Sunshine is only beloved because of overcast skies. You want flowers? You have to have rain. So when it does rain, don't complain about it. Understand that you can't have good without bad. He could have added you can't have true wealth without work.</p> <p>The point of the song (for this capitalist anyway) is that rain and hardship and work are really blessings. Because good things follow. </p> <p>Russ</p> Vidyohs,

Read the words again.

"The best things in life *were* absolutely free."

That's the way the world was a million years ago. But no one appreciated beauty or grandeur in a world where it was commonplace and acquired without effort, a world where everything was free.

In the real world, today's world, the world we live in, beauty only has meaning because there is ugliness. Sunshine is only beloved because of overcast skies. You want flowers? You have to have rain. So when it does rain, don't complain about it. Understand that you can't have good without bad. He could have added you can't have true wealth without work.

The point of the song (for this capitalist anyway) is that rain and hardship and work are really blessings. Because good things follow.

Russ

]]> By: vidyohs http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26793 vidyohs Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:29:57 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26793 <p>"a song about how the world is designed without free lunches. Here are the lyrics:</p> <p>The best things in life<br /> Were absolutely free.</p> <p>Don't you know each cloud contains<br /> Pennies from heaven.</p> <p>You'll find your fortune falling<br /> All over town."</p> <p>I don't know Russ, seems like a song any socialist would embrace, not a song for me that's for sure.</p> <p>The best things in life were absolutely free? Oh, the socialist magic wand. You don't have to make an effort, hey the best things in life are free.</p> <p>Don't you know each cloud contains<br /> Pennies from heaven.<br /> You'll find your fortune falling<br /> All over town?</p> <p>Why sure, your fortune will fall right into your lap, just make sure you're out and about with your hands out, er, umbrella turned upside down.</p> <p>Hey, that is pretty much what LBJ told the black folks in 1964 wasn't it?</p> <p>Eye opening how enculturation works.<br /> </p> "a song about how the world is designed without free lunches. Here are the lyrics:

The best things in life
Were absolutely free.

Don't you know each cloud contains
Pennies from heaven.

You'll find your fortune falling
All over town."

I don't know Russ, seems like a song any socialist would embrace, not a song for me that's for sure.

The best things in life were absolutely free? Oh, the socialist magic wand. You don't have to make an effort, hey the best things in life are free.

Don't you know each cloud contains
Pennies from heaven.
You'll find your fortune falling
All over town?

Why sure, your fortune will fall right into your lap, just make sure you're out and about with your hands out, er, umbrella turned upside down.

Hey, that is pretty much what LBJ told the black folks in 1964 wasn't it?

Eye opening how enculturation works.

]]> By: colson http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26797 colson Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:08:42 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26797 <p>I think the same thing goes for any type of "live performance" including live music performances. I don't know how they sell any DVDs of live performances because it will never be the same as the real performance. As anomdebus alludes to, I believe the shift is one of sensory input; you shift from 3d to 2d. In the same regard, this is where audio has stepped up to fill some of that gap by expanding into "surround" sound. Yet television technology hasn't quite kept up at the same pace.</p> I think the same thing goes for any type of "live performance" including live music performances. I don't know how they sell any DVDs of live performances because it will never be the same as the real performance. As anomdebus alludes to, I believe the shift is one of sensory input; you shift from 3d to 2d. In the same regard, this is where audio has stepped up to fill some of that gap by expanding into "surround" sound. Yet television technology hasn't quite kept up at the same pace.

]]> By: anomdebus http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26796 anomdebus Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:25:16 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26796 <p>From what you have written, the difference may due more to the limitations of TV than film.</p> From what you have written, the difference may due more to the limitations of TV than film.

]]> By: tw http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26795 tw Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:50:39 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26795 <p>I much prefer the Dean Martin throwaway, "Bourbon from Heaven." I'm sure that was oft-played last weekend in Steubenville during "Dean Martin Days."</p> I much prefer the Dean Martin throwaway, "Bourbon from Heaven." I'm sure that was oft-played last weekend in Steubenville during "Dean Martin Days."

]]> By: Eric http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/pennies-from-he.html/comment-page-1#comment-26794 Eric Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:03:59 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/?p=3217#comment-26794 <p>That's a good song; my favorite is the White Stripes "Effect and Cause", which starts: </p> <p>"I guess you have to have a problem<br /> if you want to invent a contraption"</p> That's a good song; my favorite is the White Stripes "Effect and Cause", which starts:

"I guess you have to have a problem
if you want to invent a contraption"

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