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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27034</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;You could always vote for a third-party idiot.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Go ahead.  Throw your vote away!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You could always vote for a third-party idiot.</i></p>
<p>&quot;Go ahead.  Throw your vote away!&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Luftner</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27033</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Luftner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt; Great. Our choice this year is a Republican idiot or a Democrat idiot.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You could always vote for a third-party idiot.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Great. Our choice this year is a Republican idiot or a Democrat idiot.</i></p>
<p>You could always vote for a third-party idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuck Obama</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27032</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuck Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Barack Hussei nObama = 6 6 6 . Obama’s real name is Mabus. Obama is a muslim. His father and step-father are muslim, no matter what he says in the eyes of all muslims that makes him one. The muslims around the world support him, praise his name. They burn American flags and burn Bibles daily, screaming Death To America, but yet wouldn’t be able to handle and cry about it if they saw me doing the same thing to their flags or Koran. They can’t even handle a cartoon drawing, when I watch Jesus on South Park boxing Satan. lol anyway. This is a holy war. They are the enemies of Israel and that makes them the enemies of God. This war is a necessary war that must be fought in the name of God. The muslims around the world are waging this war with the Christians. They are set in their plans to destroy the West and Israel, to have Islam the world religion. Nostradamus talks of Obama. Obama is a muslim of middle-eastern background, ‘The Black One’, Mabus. He is the charming, charismatic, mesmerizing speaker that the devil is. The Bible talks of the anti-christ, Obama fulfills these prophecies. 3.5 years into Obama’s rule, around election 2012 we will see his true self and intentions. 2012 the Chinese year of the dragon in which divine happenings occur on earth. Dec 21 2012 when the sun rises into the center of our Milky Way galaxy and into the 13th zodiac of a man wrestling a snake, symbolizing a time of struggle with evil. Dec. 21 2012 the earth completes a precession on it&#039;s axis, causing shifting of poles and magnetic fields. The Mayans predicted a completion of a cycle and a new cycle of change begins. The four horsemen are riding right now. Watch the news, you ain&#039;t heard? Natural Disasters, World Hunger, Oil Crisis, on top of a Holy War. Obama’s plans and ideas for change are unrealistic and are just lies to brainwash the people to follow and believe in him. ‘Change We Can Believe In’, he wants people to ‘believe’ in him. Obama is the devil. The American people are blind to the obvious and are persuaded and subliminally influenced by his image and the medias portrayal of him. Obama is going to be America’s next president then soon after proclaim himself a world leader, to be worshiped and embraced as a god, It has been written. These are the end times. Obama is the devil. One Nation Under God, Not Allah! &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Hussei nObama = 6 6 6 . Obama’s real name is Mabus. Obama is a muslim. His father and step-father are muslim, no matter what he says in the eyes of all muslims that makes him one. The muslims around the world support him, praise his name. They burn American flags and burn Bibles daily, screaming Death To America, but yet wouldn’t be able to handle and cry about it if they saw me doing the same thing to their flags or Koran. They can’t even handle a cartoon drawing, when I watch Jesus on South Park boxing Satan. lol anyway. This is a holy war. They are the enemies of Israel and that makes them the enemies of God. This war is a necessary war that must be fought in the name of God. The muslims around the world are waging this war with the Christians. They are set in their plans to destroy the West and Israel, to have Islam the world religion. Nostradamus talks of Obama. Obama is a muslim of middle-eastern background, ‘The Black One’, Mabus. He is the charming, charismatic, mesmerizing speaker that the devil is. The Bible talks of the anti-christ, Obama fulfills these prophecies. 3.5 years into Obama’s rule, around election 2012 we will see his true self and intentions. 2012 the Chinese year of the dragon in which divine happenings occur on earth. Dec 21 2012 when the sun rises into the center of our Milky Way galaxy and into the 13th zodiac of a man wrestling a snake, symbolizing a time of struggle with evil. Dec. 21 2012 the earth completes a precession on it&#39;s axis, causing shifting of poles and magnetic fields. The Mayans predicted a completion of a cycle and a new cycle of change begins. The four horsemen are riding right now. Watch the news, you ain&#39;t heard? Natural Disasters, World Hunger, Oil Crisis, on top of a Holy War. Obama’s plans and ideas for change are unrealistic and are just lies to brainwash the people to follow and believe in him. ‘Change We Can Believe In’, he wants people to ‘believe’ in him. Obama is the devil. The American people are blind to the obvious and are persuaded and subliminally influenced by his image and the medias portrayal of him. Obama is going to be America’s next president then soon after proclaim himself a world leader, to be worshiped and embraced as a god, It has been written. These are the end times. Obama is the devil. One Nation Under God, Not Allah! </p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Velazquez</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27031</link>
		<dc:creator>Manuel Velazquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello, &lt;br /&gt;
I invented a device that produces energy free of cost to consumers and does not need any kind of fuel to operate.&lt;br /&gt;
It is not related to wind, solar, ocean wave movement, coal, bio-fuel, water, natural gas, waste, or nuclear power.&lt;br /&gt;
My invention guarantees energy independence by eliminating the need for oil for fuel and energy purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
It is a significant contribution to a solution to global warming because it does not emit toxic fumes.&lt;br /&gt;
My invention can provide energy to heat or cool any residential or commercial building and can power a land, water, or air vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
It can make any machinery, equipment, or appliance a free standing service provider.&lt;br /&gt;
My invention is an on-site, on-vehicle unit that eliminates the need for power lines that run over and under streets and sidewalks and across the countryside.&lt;br /&gt;
It will eliminate power outages that occur due to inclement weather and other natural disasters. &lt;br /&gt;
The consumer would have to purchase the unit at an extremely affordable price and all energy produced by the unit will be totally free of cost to the consumer.&lt;br /&gt;
A periodic maintenance check will be recommended.&lt;br /&gt;
My invention will help save the planet and will provide invaluable benefits to humanity and the world economy.&lt;br /&gt;
I am in search of a buyer for the exclusive rights for the commercial development, mass production and distribution of my invention.&lt;br /&gt;
The invention must be commercially developed to suit the countless applications that must fulfill the diverse energy needs.&lt;br /&gt;
The price is negotiable.&lt;br /&gt;
Every energy and fuel consumer is a potential buyer of the unit once it is introduced to market.&lt;br /&gt;
This represents billions of dollars in profits for the buyer of my invention.&lt;br /&gt;
The buyer may be a governmental entity, a major corporation, an investor group, a private investor, or other.&lt;br /&gt;
Attornies for buyer and seller will guarantee that all transactions are legal and protect the interests of both parties.&lt;br /&gt;
An escrow officer may be retained to secure any and all monies involved.&lt;br /&gt;
For protection purposes, I have not patented my invention.&lt;br /&gt;
The unfortunate stream of hoaxes and scams worldwide tend to spawn skepticism and that is understandable.&lt;br /&gt;
I am not a scientist nor do I pretend to be one.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, I am not connected in any way to a learning, scientific, or research institute.&lt;br /&gt;
I am a simple single man living on a retirement income.&lt;br /&gt;
I am, however, gifted as the first person in the history of mankind to achieve one of mankind&#039;s ultimate goals: true free energy, free of perpetual costs to consumers.&lt;br /&gt;
Contact in person at:&lt;br /&gt;
No USPostal mail, please. FedEx, please.&lt;br /&gt;
Manuel Velazquez&lt;br /&gt;
Suite 17, 1699 East Main Street&lt;br /&gt;
Eagle Pass, Texas&lt;br /&gt;
78852&lt;br /&gt;
Contact by e-mail at: energyboom1@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;
freeenergyconcepts@lycos.com&lt;br /&gt;
dreamcoastconcepts@yahoo.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, <br />
I invented a device that produces energy free of cost to consumers and does not need any kind of fuel to operate.<br />
It is not related to wind, solar, ocean wave movement, coal, bio-fuel, water, natural gas, waste, or nuclear power.<br />
My invention guarantees energy independence by eliminating the need for oil for fuel and energy purposes.<br />
It is a significant contribution to a solution to global warming because it does not emit toxic fumes.<br />
My invention can provide energy to heat or cool any residential or commercial building and can power a land, water, or air vehicle.<br />
It can make any machinery, equipment, or appliance a free standing service provider.<br />
My invention is an on-site, on-vehicle unit that eliminates the need for power lines that run over and under streets and sidewalks and across the countryside.<br />
It will eliminate power outages that occur due to inclement weather and other natural disasters. <br />
The consumer would have to purchase the unit at an extremely affordable price and all energy produced by the unit will be totally free of cost to the consumer.<br />
A periodic maintenance check will be recommended.<br />
My invention will help save the planet and will provide invaluable benefits to humanity and the world economy.<br />
I am in search of a buyer for the exclusive rights for the commercial development, mass production and distribution of my invention.<br />
The invention must be commercially developed to suit the countless applications that must fulfill the diverse energy needs.<br />
The price is negotiable.<br />
Every energy and fuel consumer is a potential buyer of the unit once it is introduced to market.<br />
This represents billions of dollars in profits for the buyer of my invention.<br />
The buyer may be a governmental entity, a major corporation, an investor group, a private investor, or other.<br />
Attornies for buyer and seller will guarantee that all transactions are legal and protect the interests of both parties.<br />
An escrow officer may be retained to secure any and all monies involved.<br />
For protection purposes, I have not patented my invention.<br />
The unfortunate stream of hoaxes and scams worldwide tend to spawn skepticism and that is understandable.<br />
I am not a scientist nor do I pretend to be one.<br />
Also, I am not connected in any way to a learning, scientific, or research institute.<br />
I am a simple single man living on a retirement income.<br />
I am, however, gifted as the first person in the history of mankind to achieve one of mankind&#39;s ultimate goals: true free energy, free of perpetual costs to consumers.<br />
Contact in person at:<br />
No USPostal mail, please. FedEx, please.<br />
Manuel Velazquez<br />
Suite 17, 1699 East Main Street<br />
Eagle Pass, Texas<br />
78852<br />
Contact by e-mail at: <a href="mailto:energyboom1@gmail.com">energyboom1@gmail.com</a> <br />
<a href="mailto:freeenergyconcepts@lycos.com">freeenergyconcepts@lycos.com</a><br />
<a href="mailto:dreamcoastconcepts@yahoo.com">dreamcoastconcepts@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Free People, Free Markets</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27030</link>
		<dc:creator>Free People, Free Markets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great article, and interesteing string of pro and con comments. So far, nobody has made the moral point that I would like to make: &quot;The government prize is awarded by money that is coerced from taxpayers, while the market prize is achieved by voluntary exchange&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, and interesteing string of pro and con comments. So far, nobody has made the moral point that I would like to make: &quot;The government prize is awarded by money that is coerced from taxpayers, while the market prize is achieved by voluntary exchange&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Roberts</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27029</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just finished reading a fascinating book called &quot;Longitude&quot; wherein the greatest scientific question of the agein the 17th Century---how to determine longitude (they already knew latitude)--- was solved when a prize offered by the British Parliament was claimed by a crafty peasant farmer who had little formal education but solved several key issues to make a timepiece that would hold accurate time over the high seas and thus allow a ship to plot its correct position in lat/long. Remember too that the first solo trans-Atlantic flight by Lindberg was motivated by prize money. Here in Montana the first flight over the Rocky Mountains/Continental Divide resulted in a prize of $25,000 in 1911 to a young man named Cromwell Dixon. So I would suggest that there is a rather noble history of the use of prizes for scientific and technological advances. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished reading a fascinating book called &quot;Longitude&quot; wherein the greatest scientific question of the agein the 17th Century&#8212;how to determine longitude (they already knew latitude)&#8212; was solved when a prize offered by the British Parliament was claimed by a crafty peasant farmer who had little formal education but solved several key issues to make a timepiece that would hold accurate time over the high seas and thus allow a ship to plot its correct position in lat/long. Remember too that the first solo trans-Atlantic flight by Lindberg was motivated by prize money. Here in Montana the first flight over the Rocky Mountains/Continental Divide resulted in a prize of $25,000 in 1911 to a young man named Cromwell Dixon. So I would suggest that there is a rather noble history of the use of prizes for scientific and technological advances. </p>
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		<title>By: ProHobo</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27028</link>
		<dc:creator>ProHobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No doubt that a prize maybe an incentive...however, why is it the government&#039;s roll to incentivise alternative fuels?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The government&#039;s roll is NOT to justify a business model and when they &quot;Think&quot; it can not work - to then socialize it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We don&#039;t really live in a Free Market. And $300 million cash prizes are as silly as National Healthcare.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At the end of the day - if $100 dollars has to come out of my pocket to pay an insurance company or more taxes for insurance (or for that matter a premium for a hybrid car or to pay back prize money via taxes) - I am STILL $100 dollars lighter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The government doesn&#039;t know what is best. They can&#039;t even balance their own accounts, you think they can justify a business model?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A great quote by Friedman   http://marketpreview.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-money-is-spent.html &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt that a prize maybe an incentive&#8230;however, why is it the government&#39;s roll to incentivise alternative fuels?</p>
<p>The government&#39;s roll is NOT to justify a business model and when they &quot;Think&quot; it can not work &#8211; to then socialize it.</p>
<p>We don&#39;t really live in a Free Market. And $300 million cash prizes are as silly as National Healthcare.</p>
<p>At the end of the day &#8211; if $100 dollars has to come out of my pocket to pay an insurance company or more taxes for insurance (or for that matter a premium for a hybrid car or to pay back prize money via taxes) &#8211; I am STILL $100 dollars lighter.</p>
<p>The government doesn&#39;t know what is best. They can&#39;t even balance their own accounts, you think they can justify a business model?</p>
<p>A great quote by Friedman   <a href="http://marketpreview.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-money-is-spent.html" rel="nofollow">http://marketpreview.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-money-is-spent.html</a> </p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27027</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;This is empty rhetorical nonsense, and it will not change any non-politician&#039;s behavior one iota. The odds that this prize will ever be paid are 0%. Even if it were adopted as policy, the odds would still be 0%.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Really?  0%?  Well, then it&#039;s still much better than government grants.  I&#039;m skeptical about the 0% probability of payout claim, considering that DARPA has actually awarded money for some of its prizes, like the &quot;Grand Challenge&quot; driverless car challenge.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;During the 17th and 18th centuries (and maybe before, but I don&#039;t quite remember), countries like England and France made much use of &#039;prizes&#039; in their intellectual property regimes. US, on the other hand, instituted the patent system still used today.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Axel-- England and France made strong shifts away from prizes towards government grants during that time frame, so I think the history is a little different from what you&#039;re imagining.  There also were continued prizes in certain fields worldwide, such as aviation, that certainly seemed to spur innovation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&quot;This is empty rhetorical nonsense, and it will not change any non-politician&#39;s behavior one iota. The odds that this prize will ever be paid are 0%. Even if it were adopted as policy, the odds would still be 0%.&quot;</em></p>
<p>Really?  0%?  Well, then it&#39;s still much better than government grants.  I&#39;m skeptical about the 0% probability of payout claim, considering that DARPA has actually awarded money for some of its prizes, like the &quot;Grand Challenge&quot; driverless car challenge.</p>
<p><em>&quot;During the 17th and 18th centuries (and maybe before, but I don&#39;t quite remember), countries like England and France made much use of &#39;prizes&#39; in their intellectual property regimes. US, on the other hand, instituted the patent system still used today.&quot;</em></p>
<p>Axel&#8211; England and France made strong shifts away from prizes towards government grants during that time frame, so I think the history is a little different from what you&#39;re imagining.  There also were continued prizes in certain fields worldwide, such as aviation, that certainly seemed to spur innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Brock</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27026</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But the guys at NASA will tell you that they&#039;re responsible for everything from Tang to the microwave oven and then claim every dime of revenue from General Foods and Panasonic as evidence of their contribution.  They also invented the internet ... or was that DARPA?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From 2006:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2006/batteries-0208.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Presumably, McCain&#039;s description of a more efficient battery is vague enough to cover these carbon nanotube supercapacitors, but I wonder who&#039;ll get the $300,000,000?  For that matter, I wonder who gets the patents now.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s all just, right, proper and noble.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the guys at NASA will tell you that they&#39;re responsible for everything from Tang to the microwave oven and then claim every dime of revenue from General Foods and Panasonic as evidence of their contribution.  They also invented the internet &#8230; or was that DARPA?</p>
<p>From 2006:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2006/batteries-0208.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2006/batteries-0208.html</a></p>
<p>Presumably, McCain&#39;s description of a more efficient battery is vague enough to cover these carbon nanotube supercapacitors, but I wonder who&#39;ll get the $300,000,000?  For that matter, I wonder who gets the patents now.  I&#39;m sure it&#39;s all just, right, proper and noble.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27025</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Prizes are a significantly more efficient way of procuring technology for the government than bureaucratic R&amp;D. The money to output ratio of DARPA to NASA testifies to that. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prizes are a significantly more efficient way of procuring technology for the government than bureaucratic R&amp;D. The money to output ratio of DARPA to NASA testifies to that. </p>
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		<title>By: Trumpit@aol.com</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27024</link>
		<dc:creator>Trumpit@aol.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If someone or group develops a battery that has the potential of putting the oil companies out of business, what makes you think that the oil companies or OPEC and their mafia henchmen will just stand by and allow this to happen? If the owner of the patent doesn&#039;t sell it to an evil oil company  he&#039;ll find a horse&#039;s head in his bed in the morning.  Besides Exxon/Mobil bitting the dust, you are looking at the national economies of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, and Russia to name the most prominent ones falling by the waste side. And the Russian mafia or the KGB knows a thing or two about making you an offer you can&#039;t refuse.   &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone or group develops a battery that has the potential of putting the oil companies out of business, what makes you think that the oil companies or OPEC and their mafia henchmen will just stand by and allow this to happen? If the owner of the patent doesn&#39;t sell it to an evil oil company  he&#39;ll find a horse&#39;s head in his bed in the morning.  Besides Exxon/Mobil bitting the dust, you are looking at the national economies of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, and Russia to name the most prominent ones falling by the waste side. And the Russian mafia or the KGB knows a thing or two about making you an offer you can&#39;t refuse.   </p>
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		<title>By: Martin Brock</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27023</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
... offering prizes for technological advances seems like a much better approach than the status quo.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It could be better than awarding a monopoly of use of the technology.  You get the prize, but the technology then is not patentable.  Equivalently, the state announces before some invention that it will buy the patent at a fixed price.  Since it needn&#039;t award the patent in the first place (and often shouldn&#039;t in my way of thinking), I see no fundamental problem with this offer.  I&#039;m not advocating it.  I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s any worse than the status quo, the patent, and could be better.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But John McCain is still a shill for the corporative state.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#8230; offering prizes for technological advances seems like a much better approach than the status quo.
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<p>It could be better than awarding a monopoly of use of the technology.  You get the prize, but the technology then is not patentable.  Equivalently, the state announces before some invention that it will buy the patent at a fixed price.  Since it needn&#39;t award the patent in the first place (and often shouldn&#39;t in my way of thinking), I see no fundamental problem with this offer.  I&#39;m not advocating it.  I just don&#39;t think it&#39;s any worse than the status quo, the patent, and could be better.</p>
<p>But John McCain is still a shill for the corporative state.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles D Quarles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles D Quarles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, Slocum, the only thing government needs to do is nothing other than getting out of the way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It never ceases to amaze me that politicians, particularly leftist ones, believe that they can wave a magic wand and repeal the laws of physics, chemistry, and economics. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Slocum, the only thing government needs to do is nothing other than getting out of the way.</p>
<p>It never ceases to amaze me that politicians, particularly leftist ones, believe that they can wave a magic wand and repeal the laws of physics, chemistry, and economics. </p>
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		<title>By: Slocum</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27021</link>
		<dc:creator>Slocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I strongly agree with Blackadder that this is relatively better than how Congress currently handles this.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree also.  I&#039;d much rather see the government set up prizes (which will cost nothing if no progress is made) rather than doling out billions in subsidies to dubious projects (corn ethanol!).  Which funding takes on a life of its own even if the projects are useless (or, as in the case of corn ethanol, actually harmful).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In Don&#039;s ideal libertarian world, the government would stay out of it entirely.  But we don&#039;t live in that world.  Given that the government has to do *something* or at least be seen as doing something, offering prizes for technological advances seems like a much better approach than the status quo.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I strongly agree with Blackadder that this is relatively better than how Congress currently handles this.</i></p>
<p>I agree also.  I&#39;d much rather see the government set up prizes (which will cost nothing if no progress is made) rather than doling out billions in subsidies to dubious projects (corn ethanol!).  Which funding takes on a life of its own even if the projects are useless (or, as in the case of corn ethanol, actually harmful).</p>
<p>In Don&#39;s ideal libertarian world, the government would stay out of it entirely.  But we don&#39;t live in that world.  Given that the government has to do *something* or at least be seen as doing something, offering prizes for technological advances seems like a much better approach than the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Brock</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27020</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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Part of the reason, presumably, that scientists are already working diligently on energy breakthroughs is that they know any breakthrough they make can be patented ...
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&lt;p&gt;Most scientists work for government or corporations and have signed away their patent rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Part of the reason, presumably, that scientists are already working diligently on energy breakthroughs is that they know any breakthrough they make can be patented &#8230;
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<p>Most scientists work for government or corporations and have signed away their patent rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the Detroit Free Press:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;    Alexander Karsner, U.S. Department of Energy assistant secretary of energy efficiency and renewable energy, said Friday that while domestic battery supply was a concern, it shouldn&#039;t be overstated, in part because much of the research that created today&#039;s hybrid batteries originated in U.S. labs. [at U.S. taxpayer expense]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;    &quot;Our challenge is to see that it is produced and deployed here so that it is available to us and our strategic interest,&quot; Karsner said. Domestic battery production &quot;is an area that requires intensive ... consistent interest, both throughout the remainder of this administration, and into the next.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, but earlier in the report, this was noted:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;    U.S. automakers and battery companies lobbied Congress for a provision in last year&#039;s energy bill to provide loans and loan guarantees to firms that want to set up battery production. But Congress hasn&#039;t provided any money for the loans, and appears unlikely to pass many funding bills in the remainder of its term.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So Congress can mandate, but Congress can also refuse to accept any responsibility. It looks like the only guarantee coming out of this Congress is a guarantee to royally ---- things up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Detroit Free Press:</p>
<p>    Alexander Karsner, U.S. Department of Energy assistant secretary of energy efficiency and renewable energy, said Friday that while domestic battery supply was a concern, it shouldn&#39;t be overstated, in part because much of the research that created today&#39;s hybrid batteries originated in U.S. labs. [at U.S. taxpayer expense]</p>
<p>    &quot;Our challenge is to see that it is produced and deployed here so that it is available to us and our strategic interest,&quot; Karsner said. Domestic battery production &quot;is an area that requires intensive &#8230; consistent interest, both throughout the remainder of this administration, and into the next.&quot;</p>
<p>Yes, but earlier in the report, this was noted:</p>
<p>    U.S. automakers and battery companies lobbied Congress for a provision in last year&#39;s energy bill to provide loans and loan guarantees to firms that want to set up battery production. But Congress hasn&#39;t provided any money for the loans, and appears unlikely to pass many funding bills in the remainder of its term.</p>
<p>So Congress can mandate, but Congress can also refuse to accept any responsibility. It looks like the only guarantee coming out of this Congress is a guarantee to royally &#8212;- things up.</p>
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		<title>By: jpm</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think picking Obama is just plain redundant.  McCain needs to actually practice what he preaches and reach across the isle with Don Imus as the VP.  Then we would have real balance on the ticket.  A president who wouldn&#039;t call his political opponent by his real middle name and one who isn&#039;t affraid to.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think picking Obama is just plain redundant.  McCain needs to actually practice what he preaches and reach across the isle with Don Imus as the VP.  Then we would have real balance on the ticket.  A president who wouldn&#39;t call his political opponent by his real middle name and one who isn&#39;t affraid to.</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey! If the winner of the election takes the loser as the VP (which is how it was done in the earliest elections in this country), we could have President Dumb and Vice President Dumber.  The only thing you have to watch out for is that you don&#039;t elect Dumber for president.  Not only does it not roll off the tongue as easily but it&#039;s hard to tell which one&#039;s which in this election.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sorry professor.  I just couldn&#039;t help myself.  Is it me or are the candidates getting ever more ridiculous with every election?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! If the winner of the election takes the loser as the VP (which is how it was done in the earliest elections in this country), we could have President Dumb and Vice President Dumber.  The only thing you have to watch out for is that you don&#39;t elect Dumber for president.  Not only does it not roll off the tongue as easily but it&#39;s hard to tell which one&#39;s which in this election.</p>
<p>I&#39;m sorry professor.  I just couldn&#39;t help myself.  Is it me or are the candidates getting ever more ridiculous with every election?</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Molotov</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/silly-proposal.html/comment-page-1#comment-27016</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Molotov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is plenty of research out there on the evolution of intellectual property rights in Western countries.  During the 17th and 18th centuries (and maybe before, but I don&#039;t quite remember), countries like England and France made much use of &#039;prizes&#039; in their intellectual property regimes.  US, on the other hand, instituted the patent system still used today.  Much as you&#039;d expect, US became the world leader in new inventions during the last several centuries, whereas development in England and France stagnated.  Moral of the story - prizes are not a successful model to encourage innovation.  Strong property rights are.  We have the latter and definitely don&#039;t need the former.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is plenty of research out there on the evolution of intellectual property rights in Western countries.  During the 17th and 18th centuries (and maybe before, but I don&#39;t quite remember), countries like England and France made much use of &#39;prizes&#39; in their intellectual property regimes.  US, on the other hand, instituted the patent system still used today.  Much as you&#39;d expect, US became the world leader in new inventions during the last several centuries, whereas development in England and France stagnated.  Moral of the story &#8211; prizes are not a successful model to encourage innovation.  Strong property rights are.  We have the latter and definitely don&#39;t need the former.  </p>
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		<title>By: save_the_rustbelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>save_the_rustbelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Damn, I agree with Don twice in one month.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And Methinks summarizes the election nicely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>And Methinks summarizes the election nicely.</p>
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