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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/soaring-case-fo.html/comment-page-1#comment-26388</link>
		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bruce,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do not want anyone to make costly mistakes either, that is why I told my own children to not follow in my steps until they knew for certain that was the way they wanted to go and were on solid ground.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, this all begs the orginal point and question. Show the law in Title 26 that requires a free man to pay an income tax on the fruits of his labor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I stated that no attorney, no IRS agent, no Tax preparer, and no court has ever done so; and though he pooh poohed me (chuckle) STRB did not and could not. I don&#039;t believe you can either, Bruce.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I say again, IRS regulations apply to IRS employees, not to you and I.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is a lot of wording in Title 26 that tells you how the code will be administered and what will and will not happen when and if a person required to pay an income tax does not do so; but it all still hinges on exactly who is required to pay and how that is determined.&lt;br /&gt;
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I will look again at Cryer&#039;s case and see what I missed, but that does not alter what I just said.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Show me the law, somebody please.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,</p>
<p>I do not want anyone to make costly mistakes either, that is why I told my own children to not follow in my steps until they knew for certain that was the way they wanted to go and were on solid ground.</p>
<p>But, this all begs the orginal point and question. Show the law in Title 26 that requires a free man to pay an income tax on the fruits of his labor.</p>
<p>I stated that no attorney, no IRS agent, no Tax preparer, and no court has ever done so; and though he pooh poohed me (chuckle) STRB did not and could not. I don&#39;t believe you can either, Bruce.</p>
<p>I say again, IRS regulations apply to IRS employees, not to you and I.</p>
<p>There is a lot of wording in Title 26 that tells you how the code will be administered and what will and will not happen when and if a person required to pay an income tax does not do so; but it all still hinges on exactly who is required to pay and how that is determined.</p>
<p>I will look again at Cryer&#39;s case and see what I missed, but that does not alter what I just said.</p>
<p>Show me the law, somebody please.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Vidyohs&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Looking at Cryer&#039;s case, he was found not guilty of willfully failing to file a tax return.  His defense had nothing to do with the legality of the income tax.  The actual defense was that he believed he had properly set up a series of tax exempt trusts which were not required to file tax returns.  Thus, he lacked any criminal intent and did not willfully (the operative word in a mens rea defense) fail to file.  The jury acquitted on that basis.  Cryer, after the verdict, was still required to file the delinquent returns and pay any tax, penalty and interest to the IRS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As to my defense of the tax system, I just want to keep people from making large and costly mistakes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vidyohs</p>
<p>Looking at Cryer&#39;s case, he was found not guilty of willfully failing to file a tax return.  His defense had nothing to do with the legality of the income tax.  The actual defense was that he believed he had properly set up a series of tax exempt trusts which were not required to file tax returns.  Thus, he lacked any criminal intent and did not willfully (the operative word in a mens rea defense) fail to file.  The jury acquitted on that basis.  Cryer, after the verdict, was still required to file the delinquent returns and pay any tax, penalty and interest to the IRS.</p>
<p>As to my defense of the tax system, I just want to keep people from making large and costly mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/06/soaring-case-fo.html/comment-page-1#comment-26389</link>
		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bruce,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I bet you will.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You will find that the Supreme court views the constitutionality of the income tax the same way after the 16th amendment. It all hinges on the unchanging definition of what constitutes &quot;income&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Read Tom&#039;s memorandum all the way through, it is worth the time it takes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bruce, I have to say I personally find it frightening to find one who would work so hard to aid and abet the slave master with such diligence. Work so hard to kill curiosity and to cement anecdotal, presumptive, and conventional wisdom. Live a little, work to find out if you &quot;need to&quot; instead of working to justify why you do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tom makes the same basic argument you saw in the case sites I posted, the IRS lost.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,</p>
<p>I bet you will.</p>
<p>You will find that the Supreme court views the constitutionality of the income tax the same way after the 16th amendment. It all hinges on the unchanging definition of what constitutes &quot;income&quot;.</p>
<p>Read Tom&#39;s memorandum all the way through, it is worth the time it takes.</p>
<p>Bruce, I have to say I personally find it frightening to find one who would work so hard to aid and abet the slave master with such diligence. Work so hard to kill curiosity and to cement anecdotal, presumptive, and conventional wisdom. Live a little, work to find out if you &quot;need to&quot; instead of working to justify why you do.</p>
<p>Tom makes the same basic argument you saw in the case sites I posted, the IRS lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Vidyohs&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you might want to reread the cases you cited.  They are all off point.  One was decided 30 years prior to passage of the 16th amendment.  The other two both pertained to arguments regarding revenues earned prior to passage of the 16th amendment.  Haven&#039;t gotten to Cryer yet, but I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll find it interesting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vidyohs</p>
<p>Perhaps you might want to reread the cases you cited.  They are all off point.  One was decided 30 years prior to passage of the 16th amendment.  The other two both pertained to arguments regarding revenues earned prior to passage of the 16th amendment.  Haven&#39;t gotten to Cryer yet, but I&#39;m sure I&#39;ll find it interesting.</p>
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