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Again, you demand that it remain unchanged (sorry, "natural"), while saying that you don't expect things not to change.

You'll apparently continue this deception indefinitely.

Again, you demand that it remain unchanged (sorry, "natural"), while saying that you don't expect things not to change.

Quote from Martin Brock: "Fine. I'll just take a dump on your front porch whenever I feel like it, and you can avoid any interference with my liberty by your subjective value judgments."

The subjective judgment of the value of my property is my own. If you choose to violate my property, then I will pursue remedies as I decide.

You apparently want some arbitrary "court" to decide the value of property that isn't owned by anybody, and continue to demand remain "natural".

My subjective value judgment would be to put a bullet in your ass.

So which is it? Do you want ANWAR returned to its "pristine natural state" (whatever that means), or are we silly and naive to expect things to remain unchanged?

Particular changes wrought by men drilling oil are not equivalent to all changes of any kind for all time. We're silly and naive to confuse the two.

I'm not sure how I'm the one expecting things to remain the same. That was my point, that they don't. You're the one that seems to want that, and even demad that it be returned to its "natural" state if for some reason it does change.

Simple nonsense. I nowhere ever suggest that anything remain the same. Again (and again), "natural" does not mean "unchanged". It means "unaffected by man". I expect the drillers reasonably to ameliorate their effects on the refuge, to clean up after themselves. You're the only one leaping to absurd conclusions about what this means.

Is the pristine state what exists today, sometime in the past, or sometime in the future?

In the natural state that the drillers find before drilling, i.e. without the drilling equipment, without any spilled oil, without the paved roads, with felled trees replanted and so on.

You say the "courts" get to decide costs. That's just another person arbitrarily deciding a subjective value based on their own bias.

Fine. I'll just take a dump on your front porch whenever I feel like it, and you can avoid any interference with my liberty by your subjective value judgments.