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	<title>Comments on: Compulsory Volunteering</title>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/07/compulsory-volu.html/comment-page-1#comment-27324</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Quote from Sam Grove: &quot;Way back when, I was in the boy scouts.&lt;br /&gt;
It came to pass that the troop got a new troop leader in the shape of an ex-marine.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The military is the most socialist organization in the world. All individuality subsumed to the needs and goals of the collective. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s not surprising that an ex-marine would have a strong socialist attitude. It&#039;s unfortunate that he didn&#039;t understand that the Boy Scouts are not the Marines (although I think they trend that way).&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote from Sam Grove: &quot;Way back when, I was in the boy scouts.<br />
It came to pass that the troop got a new troop leader in the shape of an ex-marine.&quot;</p>
<p>The military is the most socialist organization in the world. All individuality subsumed to the needs and goals of the collective. </p>
<p>It&#39;s not surprising that an ex-marine would have a strong socialist attitude. It&#39;s unfortunate that he didn&#39;t understand that the Boy Scouts are not the Marines (although I think they trend that way).</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Grove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Way back when, I was in the boy scouts.&lt;br /&gt;
It came to pass that the troop got a new troop leader in the shape of an ex-marine.&lt;br /&gt;
At one meeting, they requested volunteers to march in the Memorial Day parade.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I declined to volunteer as it was our family practice to spend the day together.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It was brought up at the next scout meeting that I had been seen watching the parade with my family which was followed by some heated discussion about what to do about those that could&#039;ve/should&#039;ve volunteered but didn&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That was the last meeting I attended.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way back when, I was in the boy scouts.<br />
It came to pass that the troop got a new troop leader in the shape of an ex-marine.<br />
At one meeting, they requested volunteers to march in the Memorial Day parade.</p>
<p>I declined to volunteer as it was our family practice to spend the day together.</p>
<p>It was brought up at the next scout meeting that I had been seen watching the parade with my family which was followed by some heated discussion about what to do about those that could&#39;ve/should&#39;ve volunteered but didn&#39;t.</p>
<p>That was the last meeting I attended.</p>
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		<title>By: LowcountryJoe</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/07/compulsory-volu.html/comment-page-1#comment-27322</link>
		<dc:creator>LowcountryJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the first things I learned in &#039;principles&#039; was that there is a difference between an accounting profit and an economic profit.  This made sense.  Then, later, while taking micro analysis, we studied the concepts of utility a whole lot more closely.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Utility &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; the end game money is just the tool to aquire some -- but not all -- utility.  Recognition, in today&#039;s I-want-attention-society, is of value and can be substituted as a type of profit, can it not?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the first things I learned in &#39;principles&#39; was that there is a difference between an accounting profit and an economic profit.  This made sense.  Then, later, while taking micro analysis, we studied the concepts of utility a whole lot more closely.  </p>
<p>Utility <b><i>is</i></b> the end game money is just the tool to aquire some &#8212; but not all &#8212; utility.  Recognition, in today&#39;s I-want-attention-society, is of value and can be substituted as a type of profit, can it not?</p>
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		<title>By: LowcountryJoe</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/07/compulsory-volu.html/comment-page-1#comment-27321</link>
		<dc:creator>LowcountryJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the first things I learned in &#039;principles&#039; was that there is a difference between an accounting profit and an economic profit.  This made sense.  Then, later, while taking micro analysis, we studied the concepts of utility a whole lot more closely.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Utility &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; the end game money is just the tool to aquire some -- but not all -- utility.  Recognition, in today&#039;s I-want-attention-society, is of value and can be substituted as a type of profit, can it not?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the first things I learned in &#39;principles&#39; was that there is a difference between an accounting profit and an economic profit.  This made sense.  Then, later, while taking micro analysis, we studied the concepts of utility a whole lot more closely.  </p>
<p>Utility <b><i>is</i></b> the end game money is just the tool to aquire some &#8212; but not all &#8212; utility.  Recognition, in today&#39;s I-want-attention-society, is of value and can be substituted as a type of profit, can it not?</p>
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		<title>By: Unit</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/07/compulsory-volu.html/comment-page-1#comment-27320</link>
		<dc:creator>Unit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whereas most welfare is directed to the elderly (60%?),&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;whereas the elderly are the richest segment of the population (fact?),&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;whereas the social security system being a paygo system favors the early recipient generations,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;whereas students who work 20 hours a week do poorly in their classes,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;whereas debt-ridden graduating seniors make perfect subprime mortgage material,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;why not raise the retirement age 5 years and give a pension to people in the 18-23 range?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(I&#039;m sure there would be unintended consequences aplenty, but I don&#039;t know what they would be...)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whereas most welfare is directed to the elderly (60%?),</p>
<p>whereas the elderly are the richest segment of the population (fact?),</p>
<p>whereas the social security system being a paygo system favors the early recipient generations,</p>
<p>whereas students who work 20 hours a week do poorly in their classes,</p>
<p>whereas debt-ridden graduating seniors make perfect subprime mortgage material,</p>
<p>why not raise the retirement age 5 years and give a pension to people in the 18-23 range?</p>
<p>(I&#39;m sure there would be unintended consequences aplenty, but I don&#39;t know what they would be&#8230;)</p>
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