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		<title>By: jpm</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nobody here thinks the perpetually stupid and the professional victim will vote Republican.  Those are the ones who have no clue that success or failure is their own because they are too busy blaming others for their own self-imposed unhappiness.&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>Nobody here thinks the perpetually stupid and the professional victim will vote Republican.  Those are the ones who have no clue that success or failure is their own because they are too busy blaming others for their own self-imposed unhappiness.</p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/07/reality-check.html/comment-page-1#comment-27970</link>
		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not at all,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Posted by: vidyohs &#124; Jul 28, 2008 10:15:06 AM&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hate and fear. Fear and divisiveness. Calumny.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Posted by: Crusader &#124; Jul 28, 2008 6:58:45 PM&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;methinks (Apologies young lady) that you are a driveby poster.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The enculturated whining of Americans has nothing to do with motivations stemming from fear or hate. The whining as I said comes from the prolonged enculturation sponsored by and caused by those idiots who cling to the Marxist view of life.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In my lifetime I have seen nothing but a steady progressive increase in the lifestyles of everyone in this country who has made even the smallest effort to participate in the greatest wealth building economy in the history of mankind. Every single year of my life has been financially and culturally better than the last. In all my life I can honestly say that of the few that have not joined me in that progression, they were those who would not even try to change when change was demanded. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, that has nothing to do with the enculturated persuasion of an excessive number of my fellow Americans to whine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dear Crusader, when people have been heavily indoctrinated in the religion of socialism and have had pounded into their brains that they have no legal or moral responsibility for anything, then anything that doesn&#039;t please them is impetus to whine because it has to have been someone else&#039;s fault. What better reason to whine? Someone did it to me!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They made me apply for that credit card!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They made me apply for the second mortgage!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They made me buy more house than all the experts were telling me I could afford on my salary!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My application for that job was rejected, it was racism (sexism, ageism, speciism, name your poison)!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My SUV uses too much gas, why didn&#039;t they warn me gas prices would go up?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I loved that show, why did the networks drop it....it wassssss myyy favoooorite!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh the whines, Crusader, the whines of the irresponsible, uneducated, neglectful, or just plain idiots of the left.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Americans live in the midst of opportunity unlimited and still you hear the whines.&lt;br /&gt;
Of all the people on the planet with the least reason to whine, Americans are the most whiney of all......well no, there is the French.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all,</p>
<p>&quot;Posted by: vidyohs | Jul 28, 2008 10:15:06 AM</p>
<p>Hate and fear. Fear and divisiveness. Calumny.</p>
<p>Posted by: Crusader | Jul 28, 2008 6:58:45 PM&quot;</p>
<p>methinks (Apologies young lady) that you are a driveby poster.</p>
<p>The enculturated whining of Americans has nothing to do with motivations stemming from fear or hate. The whining as I said comes from the prolonged enculturation sponsored by and caused by those idiots who cling to the Marxist view of life.</p>
<p>In my lifetime I have seen nothing but a steady progressive increase in the lifestyles of everyone in this country who has made even the smallest effort to participate in the greatest wealth building economy in the history of mankind. Every single year of my life has been financially and culturally better than the last. In all my life I can honestly say that of the few that have not joined me in that progression, they were those who would not even try to change when change was demanded. </p>
<p>But, that has nothing to do with the enculturated persuasion of an excessive number of my fellow Americans to whine.</p>
<p>Dear Crusader, when people have been heavily indoctrinated in the religion of socialism and have had pounded into their brains that they have no legal or moral responsibility for anything, then anything that doesn&#39;t please them is impetus to whine because it has to have been someone else&#39;s fault. What better reason to whine? Someone did it to me!</p>
<p>They made me apply for that credit card!</p>
<p>They made me apply for the second mortgage!</p>
<p>They made me buy more house than all the experts were telling me I could afford on my salary!</p>
<p>My application for that job was rejected, it was racism (sexism, ageism, speciism, name your poison)!</p>
<p>My SUV uses too much gas, why didn&#39;t they warn me gas prices would go up?</p>
<p>I loved that show, why did the networks drop it&#8230;.it wassssss myyy favoooorite!</p>
<p>Oh the whines, Crusader, the whines of the irresponsible, uneducated, neglectful, or just plain idiots of the left.</p>
<p>Americans live in the midst of opportunity unlimited and still you hear the whines.<br />
Of all the people on the planet with the least reason to whine, Americans are the most whiney of all&#8230;&#8230;well no, there is the French.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Posted by: vidyohs &#124; Jul 28, 2008 10:15:06 AM&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hate and fear. Fear and divisiveness. Calumny.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by: vidyohs | Jul 28, 2008 10:15:06 AM</p>
<p>Hate and fear. Fear and divisiveness. Calumny.</p>
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		<title>By: snguyen</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;America may or may not be a nation of whiners. I don&#039;t know how one goes about measuring such a thing.  I am however, pretty sure that economically, things are worse now than they were 2 or 3 years ago.  Somehow, pointing out the fact that times existed when things were even worse, does little to assuage me about the higher prices I pay and falling value of my house.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, what I really resent, is a person who spent much his life supping at the public trough, as well as being a vice chairman of UBS, telling me to &quot;buck up&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America may or may not be a nation of whiners. I don&#39;t know how one goes about measuring such a thing.  I am however, pretty sure that economically, things are worse now than they were 2 or 3 years ago.  Somehow, pointing out the fact that times existed when things were even worse, does little to assuage me about the higher prices I pay and falling value of my house.</p>
<p>However, what I really resent, is a person who spent much his life supping at the public trough, as well as being a vice chairman of UBS, telling me to &quot;buck up&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
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		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Umm, well this -you&#039;ll tips of iceburgs- should have been, &quot;you&#039;ll see tips of iceburgs&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, well this -you&#39;ll tips of iceburgs- should have been, &quot;you&#39;ll see tips of iceburgs&quot;.</p></p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/07/reality-check.html/comment-page-1#comment-27971</link>
		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;You have to be taught, to be carefully taught&quot; (South Pacific - I believe).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You may not be a whiner, I may not be a whiner; but, Americans are whiners because we have been carefully taught.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Americans whine at levels that defy any understanding by a reasonable person.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When a student at Purdue U. can be reading a book about how Notre Dame defeated the KKK in 1920, can be seen reading that book by a black female and then accused by this black female of racism and had his entire academic life turned upside down by the ridiculous charges.....it is my Iceburg Theory of Social Observation proving out the charge that we are a nation of whiners.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Purdue U. incident is just the tip of an immense iceburg of ridiculous social behavior that has been carefully taught.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you can&#039;t work up the enthusiasm to whine then it is easy to find and engage a plaintiff&#039;s lawyer (professional whiner) who can give you a crash course in whining and/or assist you in a good whine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil Ghramm was dead on but forgot that the one thing you never ever want to do in American politics is to tell the truth until after the election.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just look around each day, keep your eyes, ears and mind open and you&#039;ll tips of iceburgs jutting up all around you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;You have to be taught, to be carefully taught&quot; (South Pacific &#8211; I believe).</p>
<p>You may not be a whiner, I may not be a whiner; but, Americans are whiners because we have been carefully taught.</p>
<p>Americans whine at levels that defy any understanding by a reasonable person.</p>
<p>When a student at Purdue U. can be reading a book about how Notre Dame defeated the KKK in 1920, can be seen reading that book by a black female and then accused by this black female of racism and had his entire academic life turned upside down by the ridiculous charges&#8230;..it is my Iceburg Theory of Social Observation proving out the charge that we are a nation of whiners.</p>
<p>The Purdue U. incident is just the tip of an immense iceburg of ridiculous social behavior that has been carefully taught.</p>
<p>If you can&#39;t work up the enthusiasm to whine then it is easy to find and engage a plaintiff&#39;s lawyer (professional whiner) who can give you a crash course in whining and/or assist you in a good whine.</p>
<p>Phil Ghramm was dead on but forgot that the one thing you never ever want to do in American politics is to tell the truth until after the election.</p>
<p>Just look around each day, keep your eyes, ears and mind open and you&#39;ll tips of iceburgs jutting up all around you.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s the thing - does anyone believe that unemployed or foreclosed people are voting for Republicans regardless of what Phil Gramm said?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#39;s the thing &#8211; does anyone believe that unemployed or foreclosed people are voting for Republicans regardless of what Phil Gramm said?</p>
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		<title>By: SheetWise</title>
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		<dc:creator>SheetWise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When the &quot;left&quot; invariably resurects &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Critical Theory&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, the only discussion left is &lt;i&gt;&quot;how bad is it&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s not a discussion the &quot;right&quot; feels comfortable with.  Not necessarily because things are &quot;rosey&quot;, but because the left owns misery, defeat, and gloom.  It&#039;s hard to fight people on their own terrain.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the &quot;left&quot; invariably resurects <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory" rel="nofollow">&quot;Critical Theory&quot;</a>, the only discussion left is <i>&quot;how bad is it&quot;</i>.  </p>
<p>That&#39;s not a discussion the &quot;right&quot; feels comfortable with.  Not necessarily because things are &quot;rosey&quot;, but because the left owns misery, defeat, and gloom.  It&#39;s hard to fight people on their own terrain.  </p>
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		<title>By: dforester</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The only possible flaw I see here is inflation.  My understanding is that how inflation is measured has changed from then til now - and if you applied yester-year&#039;s measure to today, it&#039;d actually be quite a lot closer - lending a little more credence to the whiner&#039;s arguments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More @ http://bigpicture.typepad.com.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only possible flaw I see here is inflation.  My understanding is that how inflation is measured has changed from then til now &#8211; and if you applied yester-year&#39;s measure to today, it&#39;d actually be quite a lot closer &#8211; lending a little more credence to the whiner&#39;s arguments.</p>
<p>More @ <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com." rel="nofollow">http://bigpicture.typepad.com.</a></p>
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		<title>By: shawn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;adam...individually, things can be bad, but corporately, things may not be.  We can be a &quot;nation of whiners&quot; in truth, and there by lots and lots of individual non-whiners.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The criticism stands, regardless of individual plights.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adam&#8230;individually, things can be bad, but corporately, things may not be.  We can be a &quot;nation of whiners&quot; in truth, and there by lots and lots of individual non-whiners.</p>
<p>The criticism stands, regardless of individual plights.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s one thing to say that the economy is not doing quite so bad, but it&#039;s another to call people whiners. You can correct people without insulting them (and for anyone who has lost a job or a house, it&#039;s a bit insulting to suggest that they&#039;re whining).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s one thing to say that the economy is not doing quite so bad, but it&#39;s another to call people whiners. You can correct people without insulting them (and for anyone who has lost a job or a house, it&#39;s a bit insulting to suggest that they&#39;re whining).</p>
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