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	<title>Comments on: Malice in Plunderland</title>
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		<title>By: Martin Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Renew the tree of freedom with the blood of patriots?
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&lt;p&gt;If you have a shot, take it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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Renew the tree of freedom with the blood of patriots?
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<p>If you have a shot, take it.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Nelson</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/09/why-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-30400</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 02:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So what&#039;s to be done about i?  Renew the  tree of freedom  with the blood of patriots?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#39;s to be done about i?  Renew the  tree of freedom  with the blood of patriots?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Brock</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2008/09/why-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-30399</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That figure ignores growth, but the cost of Social Security and other pension benefits soon rises rapidly, and that&#039;s a big problem, and we&#039;re denying the problem incredibly.  I won&#039;t dispute that.  The problem was challenging before the incredible deficits and other entitlement expansions of the last eight years.  The Bush administration is easily the worst of my lifetime.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That figure ignores growth, but the cost of Social Security and other pension benefits soon rises rapidly, and that&#39;s a big problem, and we&#39;re denying the problem incredibly.  I won&#39;t dispute that.  The problem was challenging before the incredible deficits and other entitlement expansions of the last eight years.  The Bush administration is easily the worst of my lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Martin:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If that $50 trillion is over 50 years, then each household will have to fork over 8-9K additional.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>If that $50 trillion is over 50 years, then each household will have to fork over 8-9K additional.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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... with another $440,000 per household for future obligations.
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&lt;p&gt;This $440,000 figure simply divides the future obligation by the number of households without specifying the period over which the obligation is due.  Is it all due next year, uniformly over the next fifty years, all at the end of fifty years?  Uniformly over a million years?  Without this specification, the figure is meaningless.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, adding the value to the current burden per household is also meaningless, because the current burden includes the current burden already includes Social Security and the other programs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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&#8230; with another $440,000 per household for future obligations.
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<p>This $440,000 figure simply divides the future obligation by the number of households without specifying the period over which the obligation is due.  Is it all due next year, uniformly over the next fifty years, all at the end of fifty years?  Uniformly over a million years?  Without this specification, the figure is meaningless.</p>
<p>Also, adding the value to the current burden per household is also meaningless, because the current burden includes the current burden already includes Social Security and the other programs.</p>
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