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That was a good start, later spoiled by the following hyperbole.
they'd have to figure out how to keep out all the illegal libertarian immigants sseeking handouts and refugee in California.

Spoken like someone truly seeking a common ground. LOL

California could do so much better if it weren't putting so much money into propping up the red welfare states.

Probably True. Whose fault is that? California or Federal government?

My guess is the well

How would they do that? Why is California well run? Is Michigan well run? Will you ever be able admit that Progressives can screw something up? Could you ever be that honest?

I "know" you "weigh" both sides of the argument. If that is the case, you must have some points of agreement with the Cafe on matters relating to economics. List a few of those.

S Andrews

I mostly haven't replied because it is a good question that requires some thought for a fair reply. Also it's off topic and I've been trying to stay on topic and cut down on the number of posts I write.

Anyway one major thing… I'm convinced the common ground between us may be a legitimacy to the position that the federal powers should be drastically diminished and reserved to the states. Sometimes I think that would be a really good idea but I don't presume to know if it would work out better or result in a civil war. But the idea that the people could choose from the state that most fits their ideology seems to have some merit.

My guess is the well run states (Like California) would exploit the poorly regulated states and then they'd have to figure out how to keep out all the illegal libertarian immigants sseeking handouts and refugee in California.

But that's kind of what's happening now. The highly productive liberal blues states seem to put far more into the federal government then they get out of it.

California could do so much better if it weren't putting so much money into propping up the red welfare states.