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		<title>By: &#187; What Earth Day Means to Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; What Earth Day Means to Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/04/what-earth-day-means-to-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-46080</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So in a moment of seriousdom are folks here &#039;anti-evironmentalist&#039; (cue the late Michael Crichton)?  Which is to say they despise the natural organic order?  Hasn&#039;t human progress been achieved through the elimination of the natural environment?  Didn&#039;t our medieval ancestors hate the environment because represented all that is dangerous?  Sure we will always have trees and cute critters but only because they are profitable for human to have?  Wasn&#039;t it the Green movement that saw the end of DDT spraying in Africa to preserve the natural order only to have malaria death rates skyrocket in a short time?  Or, suppose the Passenger Pigeons did survive and rebuilt their numbers to pre-culling times - would they be viewed as nothing more than a pest and will there be culling seaons, anti-hunting protests and farmers crumbling something along the lines &quot;our ancestors should have finished that pesky bird off when they had the chance!&quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in a moment of seriousdom are folks here &#39;anti-evironmentalist&#39; (cue the late Michael Crichton)?  Which is to say they despise the natural organic order?  Hasn&#39;t human progress been achieved through the elimination of the natural environment?  Didn&#39;t our medieval ancestors hate the environment because represented all that is dangerous?  Sure we will always have trees and cute critters but only because they are profitable for human to have?  Wasn&#39;t it the Green movement that saw the end of DDT spraying in Africa to preserve the natural order only to have malaria death rates skyrocket in a short time?  Or, suppose the Passenger Pigeons did survive and rebuilt their numbers to pre-culling times &#8211; would they be viewed as nothing more than a pest and will there be culling seaons, anti-hunting protests and farmers crumbling something along the lines &quot;our ancestors should have finished that pesky bird off when they had the chance!&quot;?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/04/what-earth-day-means-to-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-46079</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;vidyohs, personally I agree with what you&#039;re saying but there are obviously lots of people who don&#039;t feel that taxation is theft. You do, I do, they don&#039;t. If you think the state is entitled to take a portion of your assets, it doesn&#039;t seem to meet the definition of theft any more - you&#039;re willing to go along. Some people proclaim themselves proud to pay taxes, which suggests that it&#039;s not the threat of compulsion but a sincere desire to do what they believe to be the &quot;right&quot; thing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And no, I don&#039;t think you&#039;re guilty of volume. But to be honest, this comments section isn&#039;t a great place for discussion. Too much name-calling. I&#039;m not assigning blame, I&#039;m just pointing it out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vidyohs, personally I agree with what you&#39;re saying but there are obviously lots of people who don&#39;t feel that taxation is theft. You do, I do, they don&#39;t. If you think the state is entitled to take a portion of your assets, it doesn&#39;t seem to meet the definition of theft any more &#8211; you&#39;re willing to go along. Some people proclaim themselves proud to pay taxes, which suggests that it&#39;s not the threat of compulsion but a sincere desire to do what they believe to be the &quot;right&quot; thing.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#39;t think you&#39;re guilty of volume. But to be honest, this comments section isn&#39;t a great place for discussion. Too much name-calling. I&#39;m not assigning blame, I&#39;m just pointing it out.</p>
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		<title>By: geoih</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/04/what-earth-day-means-to-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-46078</link>
		<dc:creator>geoih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Quote from TrUmPiT: &quot;Basically, I think the Earth should be returned to its natural state, a state before humans came along to destroy the planet in the name of selfishness and greed.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Environmetalism has become a religious cult bent on the destruction of it&#039;s own species. Come and get your cool-aid.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote from TrUmPiT: &quot;Basically, I think the Earth should be returned to its natural state, a state before humans came along to destroy the planet in the name of selfishness and greed.&quot;</p>
<p>Environmetalism has become a religious cult bent on the destruction of it&#39;s own species. Come and get your cool-aid.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous A</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/04/what-earth-day-means-to-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-46077</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Relax folks. Earth Day won&#039;t kill you. Please respect, in addition to all that&#039;s been mentioned by Don, Mother Earth. Environmentalism isn&#039;t about reducing the ability to make money, it&#039;s the opposite. It&#039;s about having the ability to have markets, growth and prosperity in the future. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have a nice Earth Day&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax folks. Earth Day won&#39;t kill you. Please respect, in addition to all that&#39;s been mentioned by Don, Mother Earth. Environmentalism isn&#39;t about reducing the ability to make money, it&#39;s the opposite. It&#39;s about having the ability to have markets, growth and prosperity in the future. </p>
<p>Have a nice Earth Day</p>
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		<title>By: Political Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it is interesting that of all of the days in April that the Earth day organizers could pick - the picked Lenin&#039;s birthday.  Is there a story here?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is interesting that of all of the days in April that the Earth day organizers could pick &#8211; the picked Lenin&#39;s birthday.  Is there a story here?</p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/04/what-earth-day-means-to-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-46081</link>
		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh in addendum, muirduck.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;None of us can help it if the corporate USA makes such terrible decisions because it has been in the hands of idiots like you since 1933.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The corporate USA became a failure long before GMC became one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh in addendum, muirduck.</p>
<p>None of us can help it if the corporate USA makes such terrible decisions because it has been in the hands of idiots like you since 1933.</p>
<p>The corporate USA became a failure long before GMC became one.</p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
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		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;muirduck,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stay on the porch, my little Chihuahua. Your teacup brain isn&#039;t capable of handling big dog contest.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ralph earned his pension from the large corporation, GMC. GMC gets all its money from the people. Ergo, Ralph&#039;s pension is paid for by the people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Vidyohs earned his pension from the large corporation USA. USA gets all its money from the people. Ergo, vidyohs pension is paid for by the people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The people are the source of all corporate incomes, makes no difference which corporation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your teacup brain can&#039;t even handle that simple factual concept.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, in the case of vidyohs, I sincerely hope you personally feel the pain of his pension; furthermore I would be delighted to know that I could trace it all back to you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yip on, muirduck.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>muirduck,</p>
<p>Stay on the porch, my little Chihuahua. Your teacup brain isn&#39;t capable of handling big dog contest.</p>
<p>Ralph earned his pension from the large corporation, GMC. GMC gets all its money from the people. Ergo, Ralph&#39;s pension is paid for by the people.</p>
<p>Vidyohs earned his pension from the large corporation USA. USA gets all its money from the people. Ergo, vidyohs pension is paid for by the people.</p>
<p>The people are the source of all corporate incomes, makes no difference which corporation.</p>
<p>Your teacup brain can&#39;t even handle that simple factual concept.</p>
<p>However, in the case of vidyohs, I sincerely hope you personally feel the pain of his pension; furthermore I would be delighted to know that I could trace it all back to you.</p>
<p>Yip on, muirduck.</p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/04/what-earth-day-means-to-me.html/comment-page-1#comment-46082</link>
		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MHodak,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You mean....gasp, that you counter-indoctrinated your children!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good for you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MHodak,</p>
<p>You mean&#8230;.gasp, that you counter-indoctrinated your children!</p>
<p>Good for you.</p>
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		<title>By: PorpoiseMuffins</title>
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		<dc:creator>PorpoiseMuffins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Basically, I think the Earth should be returned to its natural state, a state before humans came along to destroy the planet in the name of selfishness and greed&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Humans ARE the natural state of the Earth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Animals kill and eat each other all the time in the name of selfishness and greed, yet when they do it it&#039;s called &quot;natural&quot; and when we do it it&#039;s not? By all accounts, we&#039;re probably the &quot;nicest&quot; species around!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Basically, I think the Earth should be returned to its natural state, a state before humans came along to destroy the planet in the name of selfishness and greed&quot;</p>
<p>Humans ARE the natural state of the Earth.</p>
<p>Animals kill and eat each other all the time in the name of selfishness and greed, yet when they do it it&#39;s called &quot;natural&quot; and when we do it it&#39;s not? By all accounts, we&#39;re probably the &quot;nicest&quot; species around!</p>
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		<title>By: MHodak</title>
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		<dc:creator>MHodak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re: indoctrination, my kids went to private school, and they got as much left-wing gibberish there as you&#039;ll find at any public school you can imagine.  The head of their social studies department was literally a Marxist.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My kids gently got the &quot;other side&quot; of the story at the dinner table, and were introduced to Atlas Shrugged at strategic moments in their upbringing.  They grew up into appropriately skeptical, but not cynical, young men.  If I had failed to inoculate them before sending them off to college, I might have ended with up sons trying to save the world instead of live in it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: indoctrination, my kids went to private school, and they got as much left-wing gibberish there as you&#39;ll find at any public school you can imagine.  The head of their social studies department was literally a Marxist.</p>
<p>My kids gently got the &quot;other side&quot; of the story at the dinner table, and were introduced to Atlas Shrugged at strategic moments in their upbringing.  They grew up into appropriately skeptical, but not cynical, young men.  If I had failed to inoculate them before sending them off to college, I might have ended with up sons trying to save the world instead of live in it.</p>
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		<title>By: dg lesvic</title>
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		<dc:creator>dg lesvic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Especially as a Jew, I second Boudreaux&#039; thanks for capitalism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jews ought to kiss the ground of the laissez faire America that welcomed them in unlimited numbers; and, save laissez faire capitalism and their lives while they still have the chance.  For Jews especially: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;God Bless America should be God bless laissez faire capitalism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Especially as a Jew, I second Boudreaux&#39; thanks for capitalism.</p>
<p>Jews ought to kiss the ground of the laissez faire America that welcomed them in unlimited numbers; and, save laissez faire capitalism and their lives while they still have the chance.  For Jews especially: </p>
<p>God Bless America should be God bless laissez faire capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: muirgeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>muirgeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BTW, I am not libertarian, I am farther to the right than that, almost to Anarchist, but too smart to go there. I am a T-Brazorian conservative.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Posted by: vidyohs&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well except for the government pension and health insurance. You go Minarch-Boy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I am not libertarian, I am farther to the right than that, almost to Anarchist, but too smart to go there. I am a T-Brazorian conservative.</p>
<p>Posted by: vidyohs</p>
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<p>Well except for the government pension and health insurance. You go Minarch-Boy!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Harding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brilliant post! Thanks so much.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, I never indoctrinated my son who came back from college with the usual stuff. But now, over the years, I have appealed to his reason and he now sees himself as being libertarian. It&#039;s hard to know how they will turn out, but if you encourage them, they just might be OK.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post! Thanks so much.</p>
<p>BTW, I never indoctrinated my son who came back from college with the usual stuff. But now, over the years, I have appealed to his reason and he now sees himself as being libertarian. It&#39;s hard to know how they will turn out, but if you encourage them, they just might be OK.</p>
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		<title>By: dg lesvic</title>
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		<dc:creator>dg lesvic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apropos Steve Horwitz, Peter Boettke today, on the subject of whether Hayek and Mises could get anywhere today in the Austrian School:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;As for Mises we are told by multiple sources that he was (among other things, DGL) obnoxious).&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That would have been enough for sweet as sugar Steve Horwitz to have disqualified him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos Steve Horwitz, Peter Boettke today, on the subject of whether Hayek and Mises could get anywhere today in the Austrian School:</p>
<p>&quot;As for Mises we are told by multiple sources that he was (among other things, DGL) obnoxious).&quot;</p>
<p>That would have been enough for sweet as sugar Steve Horwitz to have disqualified him.</p>
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		<title>By: BoscoH</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoscoH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So one of the things I have the ability to observe is what lots of elementary school kids do in the &quot;science&quot; portion of their day. Invariably to a point beyond comical, &quot;science&quot; means &quot;recycling&quot;. I would betray some trusts to provide the evidence, but it&#039;s there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was talking with my Dad about it the other day and telling him that if I had a 10 year old who came home and told me and his Mom that we had to recycle our cans to save the winged hairy frog, I&#039;d make life miserable for the kid until he said uncle and said &quot;frak the winged hairy frog&quot;. My Dad reminded me that I came home once looking for electrical &quot;octopuses&quot; (i.e. 6 way outlet extenders) after some safety presentation at school. And I am amazed that some of my friends didn&#039;t manage to rat their parents out for smoking hippie lettuce.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So one of the things I have the ability to observe is what lots of elementary school kids do in the &quot;science&quot; portion of their day. Invariably to a point beyond comical, &quot;science&quot; means &quot;recycling&quot;. I would betray some trusts to provide the evidence, but it&#39;s there.</p>
<p>I was talking with my Dad about it the other day and telling him that if I had a 10 year old who came home and told me and his Mom that we had to recycle our cans to save the winged hairy frog, I&#39;d make life miserable for the kid until he said uncle and said &quot;frak the winged hairy frog&quot;. My Dad reminded me that I came home once looking for electrical &quot;octopuses&quot; (i.e. 6 way outlet extenders) after some safety presentation at school. And I am amazed that some of my friends didn&#39;t manage to rat their parents out for smoking hippie lettuce.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TrUmPiT and muirgeo&#039;s comments exemplify the poor ecological and evolutionary science that so often accompanies these kind of things.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If there were no humans then nature would ...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, once-upon-a-time, there actually weren&#039;t any humans, and guess what? That&#039;s right, nature created us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TrUmPiT and muirgeo&#39;s comments exemplify the poor ecological and evolutionary science that so often accompanies these kind of things.</p>
<blockquote><p>&quot;If there were no humans then nature would &#8230;&quot;</p></blockquote>
<p>But, once-upon-a-time, there actually weren&#39;t any humans, and guess what? That&#39;s right, nature created us.</p>
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		<title>By: Crawdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crawdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;S. Andrews,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Basically, I think the Earth should be returned to its natural state, a state before humans came along to destroy the planet in the name of selfishness and greed&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Go kill yourself. That will be a good start.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That cracked me up. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m still waiting for all the folks who think like sir trumpit on this issue, or say they do (and there are bunches) to put their money where their mouths are and do their part in saving mother earth.  Now that would show some conviction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So lead the way sir trumpit!  The earth needs your sacrifice!  Rally your fellow believers and reveal to us, enmasse, how willing you are to sacrifice yourselves upon the altar of your collective beliefs.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S. Andrews,</p>
<p>&quot;Basically, I think the Earth should be returned to its natural state, a state before humans came along to destroy the planet in the name of selfishness and greed&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;Go kill yourself. That will be a good start.&quot;</p>
<p>That cracked me up. </p>
<p>I&#39;m still waiting for all the folks who think like sir trumpit on this issue, or say they do (and there are bunches) to put their money where their mouths are and do their part in saving mother earth.  Now that would show some conviction.</p>
<p>So lead the way sir trumpit!  The earth needs your sacrifice!  Rally your fellow believers and reveal to us, enmasse, how willing you are to sacrifice yourselves upon the altar of your collective beliefs.  </p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
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		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Adam,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t do a lot of internet exploring for just blogs, I simply do not ordinarily have the time, interest, or inclination; so, I will willingly accept your arguments as they stand on the subject of volume Vs flexibility.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps what you look at as volume just might be certainty and conviction, especially vis-a-vis all left wingers and their babble. I don&#039;t know, this is just a suggestion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you know socialism is evil, and your words above suggest you do, then at what point, at what age do you think it is natural to just tell it like it is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Socialism requires theft, end of story. Theft is immoral and evil. People who practice socialism, or want to, are admitted thiefs and/or supporters of thiefs. Either way they are evil and want to practice evil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What is there about that to debate?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I personally believe in treating all socialists exactly the way I treat muirduck, Gil, and STrUmPiT, as mentally broken creatures. They believe in evil, they support evil, the want to impose evil. How could I change and respect them as long as they are broken? Are those libertarians like me?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am writing my convictions, and I can back them up with historical proofs, so perhaps I am guilty of volume? I don&#039;t know. I have never thought of myself as being that way, but they say the individual is always the last to know.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, I am not libertarian, I am farther to the right than that, almost to Anarchist, but too smart to go there. I am a T-Brazorian conservative.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>I don&#39;t do a lot of internet exploring for just blogs, I simply do not ordinarily have the time, interest, or inclination; so, I will willingly accept your arguments as they stand on the subject of volume Vs flexibility.</p>
<p>Perhaps what you look at as volume just might be certainty and conviction, especially vis-a-vis all left wingers and their babble. I don&#39;t know, this is just a suggestion.</p>
<p>If you know socialism is evil, and your words above suggest you do, then at what point, at what age do you think it is natural to just tell it like it is.</p>
<p>Socialism requires theft, end of story. Theft is immoral and evil. People who practice socialism, or want to, are admitted thiefs and/or supporters of thiefs. Either way they are evil and want to practice evil.</p>
<p>What is there about that to debate?</p>
<p>I personally believe in treating all socialists exactly the way I treat muirduck, Gil, and STrUmPiT, as mentally broken creatures. They believe in evil, they support evil, the want to impose evil. How could I change and respect them as long as they are broken? Are those libertarians like me?</p>
<p>I am writing my convictions, and I can back them up with historical proofs, so perhaps I am guilty of volume? I don&#39;t know. I have never thought of myself as being that way, but they say the individual is always the last to know.</p>
<p>BTW, I am not libertarian, I am farther to the right than that, almost to Anarchist, but too smart to go there. I am a T-Brazorian conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: muirgeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>muirgeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I simply offer this incredible passage from Aldo Leopold;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Death of a Species&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our grandfathers were less well-housed, well-fed, well-clothed than we are. The strivings by which they bettered their lot are also those which deprived us of [Passenger] pigeons. Perhaps we now grieve because we are not sure, in our hearts, that we have gained by the exchange. The gadgets of industy bring us more comforts than the pigeons did, but do they add as much to the glory of the spring?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is a century now since Darwin gave us the first glimpse of the origin of the species. We know now what was unknown to all the preceding caravan of generations: that men are only fellow-voyagers with other creatures in the odyssey of evolution. This new knowledge should have given us, by this time, a sense of kinship with fellow-ceatures; a wish to live and let live; a sense of wonder over the magnitude and duration of the biotic enterprise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Above all we should, in the century since Darwin, have come to know that man, while captain of the adventuring ship, is hardly the sole object of its quest, and that his prior assumptions to this effect arose from the simple necessity of whistling in the dark.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These things, I say, should have come to us. I fear they have not come to many.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. The Cro-Magnon who slew the last mammoth thought only of steaks. The sportsman who shot the last [Passenger] pigeon thought only of his prowess. The sailor who clubbed the last auck thought of nothing at all. But we, who have lost our pigeons, mourn the loss. Had the funeral been ours, the pigeons would hardly have mourned us. In this fact, rather than in Mr. DuPont&#039;s nylons or Mr. Vannevar Bush&#039;s bombs, lies objective evidence of our superiority over the beasts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply offer this incredible passage from Aldo Leopold;</p>
<p>Death of a Species</p>
<p>Our grandfathers were less well-housed, well-fed, well-clothed than we are. The strivings by which they bettered their lot are also those which deprived us of [Passenger] pigeons. Perhaps we now grieve because we are not sure, in our hearts, that we have gained by the exchange. The gadgets of industy bring us more comforts than the pigeons did, but do they add as much to the glory of the spring?</p>
<p>It is a century now since Darwin gave us the first glimpse of the origin of the species. We know now what was unknown to all the preceding caravan of generations: that men are only fellow-voyagers with other creatures in the odyssey of evolution. This new knowledge should have given us, by this time, a sense of kinship with fellow-ceatures; a wish to live and let live; a sense of wonder over the magnitude and duration of the biotic enterprise.</p>
<p>Above all we should, in the century since Darwin, have come to know that man, while captain of the adventuring ship, is hardly the sole object of its quest, and that his prior assumptions to this effect arose from the simple necessity of whistling in the dark.</p>
<p>These things, I say, should have come to us. I fear they have not come to many.</p>
<p>For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. The Cro-Magnon who slew the last mammoth thought only of steaks. The sportsman who shot the last [Passenger] pigeon thought only of his prowess. The sailor who clubbed the last auck thought of nothing at all. But we, who have lost our pigeons, mourn the loss. Had the funeral been ours, the pigeons would hardly have mourned us. In this fact, rather than in Mr. DuPont&#39;s nylons or Mr. Vannevar Bush&#39;s bombs, lies objective evidence of our superiority over the beasts.</p>
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