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When you plunder my money, either through taxes or regulations (like a "living wage"). If you wish to give somebody a "living wage", then give it with your money and leave everybody elses money alone.

Quote from K Ackermann: "Are you saying that no matter what my compensation is, it will always be too much?"

No, that's what you're saying. You feel free to make and spend whatever you like, however you like. Just let everybody else do the same.

Quote from K Ackermann: "I do not understand how wanting to feed a family and send a kid to college is spending someone elses money. Do you not want the same things?"

Because those things are not free. If you wish somebody to eat or go to college, then you pay for it. Don't expect other people to pay for somebody's food or college or whatever through government coercion (taxes, regulations, etc.). That's simply theft by the majority.

P.S. Complaints about minimum wage comes about from the fact that employers want to pay less than the minimum wage. I can't employers getting worked up over a minimum wage of 1 cent per hour.

Of course, that depends on whether you are productive enough to feed your family and send a kid to college.

It is indeed our good fortune to live in a time where the production of food is so much higher than even a century ago.

If I work for the money, how is it somebody elses?

Are you saying that no matter what my compensation is, it will always be too much?

I do not understand how wanting to feed a family and send a kid to college is spending someone elses money. Do you not want the same things?

It has nothing to do with perspective. You're ignoring the facts. Wages (prices) artificially raised higher than what employers (buyers) will pay (because it isn't productive) only results in more supply than demand (unemployment). When you succeed in changing that fact, let us know.

Quote from K Ackermann: "As for a living wage, well, enough money to feed a family, send a kid to college, and keep everyone healthy"

A classic example of somebody spending somebody else's money. I suggest you hire these people at whatever this "living wage" might be. Demanding that others do it simply makes you a hypocrite, or worse a thug (or at least a supporter of thugs).

Some questions for you:

Where do jobs come from, or why do they exist at all?

How many possible jobs are there?

Each pair of hands just gets paid a 10th of what we would.

Regarding that living wage:

How many kids?
What colleges?
Do you drink wine with dinner? Imported or domestic?
How many cars would you like?
What type of house would you like? Oceanfront or lakefront?

Just email your requirements and we will tailor your compensation accordingly.

I can't wait to hire you!

Your future employer

This is at least the third time you have repeated the same quote from William Greider. It does not get any better with repetition.

People are more or less free in various countries around the world. Their freedom is constrained by their governments in favor of special interests. Unfortunately, perfect freedom to do business and trade freely does not exist anywhere.

Entrepreneurs, whether in China or the US, will work within and around those constraints to make a living by trade. Doing business with those in countries less free than ours does not require putting aside free market values. To the contrary, it embraces those values.

The entrepreneur in China or other "low wage dictatorships" is looking to sell to the highest bidder. It is no surprise that the highest bidder often comes to him from "high wage democracies."

The idea that this trade is the result of some sort of planned exploitation by "global enterprises" displays ignorance of the tens of thousands of organizations and individuals involved in making these transactions possible.

Your quote from William Greider is nonsense. He speaks as if he values freedom but it seems that he would like to put additional constraints on entrepreneurs throughout the world. He would thereby make everyone less free and poorer.

As far as that quote, the duck trots it out about twice a week as though it proves anything about corporations and free market economics. It does not. Its the rambling BS of a crank. Ignore it.

Less than that, and the 3rd world is drawing us closer instead of the other way around.