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I just wish they'd put on their Nikes and get it over with.

In the mean time there is no point in reasoning with them, just as there is no point in reasoning with any religion.

As to carbon release into the atmosphere: the Earth puts far more into than mankind does and it always has: volcanic activity, carbon sinks like the ocean. Better check the evidence, the carbon that's released from the ocean is released after the temps rise. I simply believe that the scientific community that's investigating and testing this climate change have been perverted with funding, group-think and cronyism to get the funding, and the pessimistic bias that is so pervasive within people. The pervasive pessimistic bias is just manifesting itself in different ways now that most end-of-days forecasters have been discredited and the alien being believers has lost it's cache.

But thanks for attempting to answer the question, DK, and for not reading into things that never were written. Once again you did not disappoint.

What are you going on about?? Obviously he's been making this point for years and I'm not (never have to my knowledge) challenged or disagreed with that basic premise. I just think some people in the thread were going in the direction of "Al Gore is bankrupting us" – which is a somewhat bastardized version of what I think Don was trying to say. I thought the whole point was that he was trying to get past the stupid "economists and bloggers pretending they're climatologists" thing that tends to happen a lot.

OK – this is comment three for me, so I'm done I think.

Please, stop calling me disingenuous. I'm not.