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	<title>Comments on: The Psychology of Climate Change and Intervention</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Kuehn</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/kristof-is-right-and-wrong-on-climatechange-policy.html/comment-page-1#comment-53350</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Kuehn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don -&lt;br /&gt;
But if it&#039;s just an issue of discount rates, shouldn&#039;t the two cancel out?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If anything - I think the economic costs of climate change policy are more immediate than the costs of climate change itself.  So if you&#039;re arguing from a position of &quot;insufficiently fearful of relatively distant threats&quot;, as you are here, I&#039;m not sure why that priveleges anti-regulation over pro-regulation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the psychology of the discount rate is an important problem to be raised with any intertemporal market choices.  So, I would add, is the fact that the institutions that structure private property price the economic consequences of regulation into market decisions already.  They don&#039;t, however, price the economic consequences of your choices on other people (through climate change) into the market.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not that any of that gives us an ideal policy - I just don&#039;t see how it militates against some sort of proactive policy.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don -<br />
But if it&#39;s just an issue of discount rates, shouldn&#39;t the two cancel out?</p>
<p>If anything &#8211; I think the economic costs of climate change policy are more immediate than the costs of climate change itself.  So if you&#39;re arguing from a position of &quot;insufficiently fearful of relatively distant threats&quot;, as you are here, I&#39;m not sure why that priveleges anti-regulation over pro-regulation.</p>
<p>But the psychology of the discount rate is an important problem to be raised with any intertemporal market choices.  So, I would add, is the fact that the institutions that structure private property price the economic consequences of regulation into market decisions already.  They don&#39;t, however, price the economic consequences of your choices on other people (through climate change) into the market.</p>
<p>Not that any of that gives us an ideal policy &#8211; I just don&#39;t see how it militates against some sort of proactive policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Science isn&#039;t counseling me about any such thing. I read the journals, and I do so looking at the graphs with an eye for how they&#039;ve been distorted and manipulated, using cherry-picked data and assumptions of positive feedback for carbon.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, it&#039;s politicians and entrepreneurs who are &quot;counseling&quot; me about the course of action I ought to take. They are operating with a vested interest in obtaining and solidifying power over everyday activity, or leveraging a position in a newly created market for a gas.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science isn&#39;t counseling me about any such thing. I read the journals, and I do so looking at the graphs with an eye for how they&#39;ve been distorted and manipulated, using cherry-picked data and assumptions of positive feedback for carbon.</p>
<p>No, it&#39;s politicians and entrepreneurs who are &quot;counseling&quot; me about the course of action I ought to take. They are operating with a vested interest in obtaining and solidifying power over everyday activity, or leveraging a position in a newly created market for a gas.</p>
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		<title>By: LowcountryJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>LowcountryJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;They don&#039;t, however, price the economic consequences of your choices on other people (through climate change) into the market...Not that any of that gives us an ideal policy - I just don&#039;t see how it militates against some sort of proactive policy.&lt;&lt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is assuming that anyone&#039;s chices are actually having any significant influence on the Earth&#039;s climate changes.  If these choices are not having a significant influence, why have any policy?  It&#039;s this whole premise that may make this a non-starter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;They don&#39;t, however, price the economic consequences of your choices on other people (through climate change) into the market&#8230;Not that any of that gives us an ideal policy &#8211; I just don&#39;t see how it militates against some sort of proactive policy.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>This is assuming that anyone&#39;s chices are actually having any significant influence on the Earth&#39;s climate changes.  If these choices are not having a significant influence, why have any policy?  It&#39;s this whole premise that may make this a non-starter.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Kuehn</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/kristof-is-right-and-wrong-on-climatechange-policy.html/comment-page-1#comment-53353</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Kuehn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LCJ -&lt;br /&gt;
May make what a non-starter?  The point that militating against regulation isn&#039;t justified by consideration of the psychology of discount rates?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LCJ -<br />
May make what a non-starter?  The point that militating against regulation isn&#39;t justified by consideration of the psychology of discount rates?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Grove</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/kristof-is-right-and-wrong-on-climatechange-policy.html/comment-page-1#comment-53354</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;About that suppressed &lt;a href=&quot;http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/banned-epa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;report.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About that suppressed <a href="http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/banned-epa" rel="nofollow">report.</a></p>
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