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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A politically liberal friend just gave me an article by Stiglitz titled &quot;Stimulate or Die&quot;.  I was considering how to rebut it when I came across this article.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If government stimulus is supposed to revive moribund economies, why do massive World Bank funded projects and foreign aid fail to lift African countries out of poverty?  In fact, using the Keynesian tactic of confusing correlation and causation, one would conclude it exacerbates poverty.  Given that aid involves no increase in public debt and that much of the debt connected with major infrastructure projects will be eventually forgiven, these stimuli should be even more effective than what Krugman and Stiglitz propose we need in the US.  Is it possible that government is generally ineffective in deploying investment capital and that increases in exogenously derived (as I would describe federal government spending funded by Chinese t-bond buyers) social spending provides no long term benefit, beyond a short-term voter palliative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A politically liberal friend just gave me an article by Stiglitz titled &#8220;Stimulate or Die&#8221;.  I was considering how to rebut it when I came across this article.</p>
<p>If government stimulus is supposed to revive moribund economies, why do massive World Bank funded projects and foreign aid fail to lift African countries out of poverty?  In fact, using the Keynesian tactic of confusing correlation and causation, one would conclude it exacerbates poverty.  Given that aid involves no increase in public debt and that much of the debt connected with major infrastructure projects will be eventually forgiven, these stimuli should be even more effective than what Krugman and Stiglitz propose we need in the US.  Is it possible that government is generally ineffective in deploying investment capital and that increases in exogenously derived (as I would describe federal government spending funded by Chinese t-bond buyers) social spending provides no long term benefit, beyond a short-term voter palliative?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A politically liberal friend just gave me an article by Stiglitz titled &quot;Stimulate or Die&quot;.  I was considering how to rebut it when I came across this article.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If government stimulus is supposed to revive moribund economies, why do massive World Bank funded projects and foreign aid fail to lift African countries out of poverty?  In fact, using the Keynesian tactic of confusing correlation and causation, one would conclude it exacerbates poverty.  Given that aid involves no increase in public debt and that much of the debt connected with major infrastructure projects will be eventually forgiven, these stimuli should be even more effective than what Krugman and Stiglitz propose we need in the US.  Is it possible that government is generally ineffective in deploying investment capital and that increases in exogenously derived (as I would describe federal government spending funded by Chinese t-bond buyers) social spending provides no long term benefit, beyond a short-term voter palliative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A politically liberal friend just gave me an article by Stiglitz titled &#8220;Stimulate or Die&#8221;.  I was considering how to rebut it when I came across this article.</p>
<p>If government stimulus is supposed to revive moribund economies, why do massive World Bank funded projects and foreign aid fail to lift African countries out of poverty?  In fact, using the Keynesian tactic of confusing correlation and causation, one would conclude it exacerbates poverty.  Given that aid involves no increase in public debt and that much of the debt connected with major infrastructure projects will be eventually forgiven, these stimuli should be even more effective than what Krugman and Stiglitz propose we need in the US.  Is it possible that government is generally ineffective in deploying investment capital and that increases in exogenously derived (as I would describe federal government spending funded by Chinese t-bond buyers) social spending provides no long term benefit, beyond a short-term voter palliative?</p>
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		<title>By: wonda</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont understand why dont the poor nations just got F*** themselves ! !Amn the wealthy nations should get off their FAT asses and HELP the F***** people out ! !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont understand why dont the poor nations just got F*** themselves ! !Amn the wealthy nations should get off their FAT asses and HELP the F***** people out ! !</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Alderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Alderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why don&#039;t the poor countries just stop paying back the loans?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#39;t the poor countries just stop paying back the loans?</p>
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		<title>By: Per Kurowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Per Kurowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The least one could expect is that forgiving loans would come with a change of managements and severe curtailment of taking new loans.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The debate on debt sustainability sometimes sounds to me like debating whether you can smoke one, two or three packages of cigarettes a day before smoking kills you. In my case, after not having smoked one single cigarette in more than ten years—and not one single week goes by without being seriously tempted—I am certain that my own “nonsmoking sustainability level” is an absolute zero cigarettes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With respect to public debt, we know there are governments really hooked on public debt and then perhaps their debt sustainability level should be an equally big zero. As it must be very difficult to free someone from a vice with as much addictive power as credits payable by future generations, it might be safer if the Bank and the Fund recommend cutting the habit altogether, cold-turkey, instead of suggesting a life on the border of sustainable (healthy?) levels of debt consumption.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The least one could expect is that forgiving loans would come with a change of managements and severe curtailment of taking new loans.</p>
<p>The debate on debt sustainability sometimes sounds to me like debating whether you can smoke one, two or three packages of cigarettes a day before smoking kills you. In my case, after not having smoked one single cigarette in more than ten years—and not one single week goes by without being seriously tempted—I am certain that my own “nonsmoking sustainability level” is an absolute zero cigarettes.</p>
<p>With respect to public debt, we know there are governments really hooked on public debt and then perhaps their debt sustainability level should be an equally big zero. As it must be very difficult to free someone from a vice with as much addictive power as credits payable by future generations, it might be safer if the Bank and the Fund recommend cutting the habit altogether, cold-turkey, instead of suggesting a life on the border of sustainable (healthy?) levels of debt consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: dg lesvic</title>
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		<dc:creator>dg lesvic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good questions.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Grove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem of the IMF is that it makes loans to countries, that is, governments, that is, politicians.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This enables those politicians to destroy their subject&#039;s productive capacity.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem of the IMF is that it makes loans to countries, that is, governments, that is, politicians.</p>
<p>This enables those politicians to destroy their subject&#39;s productive capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: BoscoH</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoscoH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suspect that 30%, if the debt was forgiven, would just amass more debt. Another 30% would have found a way to repay the debt without assistance eventually. So forgiving debt is about the remaining 40%. And on the whole, it&#039;s not in the interest of the lender nations to forgive the debts. We should call these nations that can&#039;t repay their loans what they are, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reason.com/blog/show/134722.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;deadbeats&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that 30%, if the debt was forgiven, would just amass more debt. Another 30% would have found a way to repay the debt without assistance eventually. So forgiving debt is about the remaining 40%. And on the whole, it&#39;s not in the interest of the lender nations to forgive the debts. We should call these nations that can&#39;t repay their loans what they are, <a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/134722.html" rel="nofollow">deadbeats</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ransom</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/why-are-poor-nations-poor.html/comment-page-1#comment-52670</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ransom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stiglitz makes more econ 101 mistakes than any other big name economist I can think of -- more even than Krugman.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stiglitz makes just about every economic science blunder Hayek ever identified.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s up with that?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stiglitz makes more econ 101 mistakes than any other big name economist I can think of &#8212; more even than Krugman.</p>
<p>Stiglitz makes just about every economic science blunder Hayek ever identified.</p>
<p>What&#39;s up with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Gardner</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/why-are-poor-nations-poor.html/comment-page-1#comment-52671</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On the NPR theme, Russ, you have to checkout the Science Friday episode that aired today.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All about health care, and how the private insurance companies are ruining the health care system. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A former editor in chief of some kind for the New England Journal of Medicine was making the case that Obama wasn&#039;t trying hard enough for a truly socialized system. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the NPR theme, Russ, you have to checkout the Science Friday episode that aired today.</p>
<p>All about health care, and how the private insurance companies are ruining the health care system. </p>
<p>A former editor in chief of some kind for the New England Journal of Medicine was making the case that Obama wasn&#39;t trying hard enough for a truly socialized system. </p>
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		<title>By: vidyohs</title>
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		<dc:creator>vidyohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually BoscoH,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The purpose of those loans by us&#039;ns was/is not to improve their lives or lift them out of poverty.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;See my comment above and Sanm Grove&#039;s higher. It is all about binding the nations leaders to us politically, specifically in votes in the U.N., and in trade policies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;We should call these nations that can&#039;t repay their loans what they are, deadbeats.&lt;br /&gt;
Posted by: BoscoH &#124; Jul 10, 2009 9:47:44 PM&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why not call them what they are intended to be, ours.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually BoscoH,</p>
<p>The purpose of those loans by us&#39;ns was/is not to improve their lives or lift them out of poverty.</p>
<p>See my comment above and Sanm Grove&#39;s higher. It is all about binding the nations leaders to us politically, specifically in votes in the U.N., and in trade policies.</p>
<p>&quot;We should call these nations that can&#39;t repay their loans what they are, deadbeats.<br />
Posted by: BoscoH | Jul 10, 2009 9:47:44 PM&quot;</p>
<p>Why not call them what they are intended to be, ours.</p>
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		<title>By: erp</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/why-are-poor-nations-poor.html/comment-page-1#comment-52673</link>
		<dc:creator>erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Poor nations had socialism foisted on them when the colonials were kicked out.  All the loans in the world won&#039;t help them because they don&#039;t invest the money in their own prosperity.  Even if their leaders don&#039;t steal it for themselves, once its spent, they merely come looking for more.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor nations had socialism foisted on them when the colonials were kicked out.  All the loans in the world won&#39;t help them because they don&#39;t invest the money in their own prosperity.  Even if their leaders don&#39;t steal it for themselves, once its spent, they merely come looking for more.</p>
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		<title>By: SheetWise</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/why-are-poor-nations-poor.html/comment-page-1#comment-52674</link>
		<dc:creator>SheetWise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pay attention to the OP --&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Who owns the debt?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is there an international recocognition of odious debt?  (an idea AFASIK first proffered by the Soviets after the 1917 revolution).&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pay attention to the OP &#8211;</p>
<p>Who owns the debt?</p>
<p>Is there an international recocognition of odious debt?  (an idea AFASIK first proffered by the Soviets after the 1917 revolution).</p>
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		<title>By: muirgeo</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/why-are-poor-nations-poor.html/comment-page-1#comment-52675</link>
		<dc:creator>muirgeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6WstddMJZQ&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejohnperkins%2Eorg%2F&amp;feature=player_embedded&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;Give the thugs who run the country money. &quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Exactly. Then own the thug, take over the countries assets as collateral, let multi-national corporations use the &quot;borrowed&quot; money to build things and profit handsomely, privatize public assets... again putting them in the hands of the corporations, then  force upon them conditions in which the debt will never be re-paid and you have whole countries indentured to you. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s the Road to Serfdom and we paved it. Yeah capitalism run amuck is why poor nations are poor in many cases. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6WstddMJZQ&#038;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejohnperkins%2Eorg%2F&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow"> &quot;Give the thugs who run the country money. &quot;</a></p>
<p>Exactly. Then own the thug, take over the countries assets as collateral, let multi-national corporations use the &quot;borrowed&quot; money to build things and profit handsomely, privatize public assets&#8230; again putting them in the hands of the corporations, then  force upon them conditions in which the debt will never be re-paid and you have whole countries indentured to you. </p>
<p>It&#39;s the Road to Serfdom and we paved it. Yeah capitalism run amuck is why poor nations are poor in many cases. </p>
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		<title>By: Lee Kelly</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/07/why-are-poor-nations-poor.html/comment-page-1#comment-52676</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;muirgeo,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If &quot;capitalism&quot; means funding third-world dictators so that politicians can hand out more goodies to their friends, then you will find very few capitalists on this blog, and would be better served by commenting elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>muirgeo,</p>
<p>If &quot;capitalism&quot; means funding third-world dictators so that politicians can hand out more goodies to their friends, then you will find very few capitalists on this blog, and would be better served by commenting elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: S Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;even if this economic hitman is telling the truth, what imbecile muirgeo doesn&#039;t understand, is the fact that hitman was funded by the ALMIGHTY STATE.&lt;/p&gt;

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