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	<title>Comments on: Will Pres. Obama&#8217;s Health-Care &#8216;Reform&#8217; Control Costs or Not?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything in our nation seems to all come down to money.Wasn&#039;t the United States a happier nation when things like family and caring for others was more important?The fact is not one we like to face. So many people go without and not because they don&#039;t work hard enough. Not because they don&#039;t deserve it. Honestly we take better care of the criminals in this country than we do the honest working men and women! When in jail they don&#039;t deny you a doctor,but since I am not in jail and am working hard to care for my family I get nothing, and to top that all off who pays for convicts to see a doctor? Why we do of course! I am a 27 year old mother of 4.My health insurance recently went up by $200.00/month! I now pay a grand total of $450.00/month!With a $30.00 co-pay at the doctor and a $1,000.00 deductable! This painfully just pays for the kids.I cannot afford to add myself. I don&#039;t even know how much longer I can keep up with the bill month after month.I am in danger of loosing health insurance for my children really soon if something doesn&#039;t happen soon! As for myself I have not seen a doctor for myself since I was 17,soon to be 11 years ago! I am not asking for a hand out.I don&#039;t receive any state benefits of any kind.The sad fact of all this is that there are millions of good people out there just like me,in need of help.I am a patriot and to me there is no better place on earth like America and I am proud and lucky to be an American.What hurts though is seeing my nation get worked up and get behind a war,whatever the costs......but we question paying for health care? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything in our nation seems to all come down to money.Wasn&#8217;t the United States a happier nation when things like family and caring for others was more important?The fact is not one we like to face. So many people go without and not because they don&#8217;t work hard enough. Not because they don&#8217;t deserve it. Honestly we take better care of the criminals in this country than we do the honest working men and women! When in jail they don&#8217;t deny you a doctor,but since I am not in jail and am working hard to care for my family I get nothing, and to top that all off who pays for convicts to see a doctor? Why we do of course! I am a 27 year old mother of 4.My health insurance recently went up by $200.00/month! I now pay a grand total of $450.00/month!With a $30.00 co-pay at the doctor and a $1,000.00 deductable! This painfully just pays for the kids.I cannot afford to add myself. I don&#8217;t even know how much longer I can keep up with the bill month after month.I am in danger of loosing health insurance for my children really soon if something doesn&#8217;t happen soon! As for myself I have not seen a doctor for myself since I was 17,soon to be 11 years ago! I am not asking for a hand out.I don&#8217;t receive any state benefits of any kind.The sad fact of all this is that there are millions of good people out there just like me,in need of help.I am a patriot and to me there is no better place on earth like America and I am proud and lucky to be an American.What hurts though is seeing my nation get worked up and get behind a war,whatever the costs&#8230;&#8230;but we question paying for health care?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Grove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do you want &quot;Controls&quot; to appear as &quot;Control&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you want &quot;Controls&quot; to appear as &quot;Control&quot;?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Kuehn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Kuehn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think he&#039;s arguing that it&#039;s a model just yet - simply that it is where, in Krugman&#039;s words, there is &quot;serious consideration&quot; of how to move away from fee for service.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, what I find more disjointed isn&#039;t the claim about Massachusetts - I largely agree with that one.  What I find inconsistent is Krugman&#039;s rush to a national public plan at all in light of problems at the state level still.  The most recent post on my blog is one about exactly this - letting the states take the initiative on health reform the way they did with welfare reform.  To the extent that any states perform especially well, those best practices can be applied elsewhere.  Some things can and should be done nationally this year: eliminating the tax priveleges of employer coverage, adjusting Medicare fee-for-service, and perhaps expanding Medicaid somewhat if that seems appropriate.  But I don&#039;t understand the logic of the rush to the national public plan.  One thing I actually did find refreshing and different in this morning&#039;s article was that for once Krugman somewhat silenced the public plan drumbeat and outlined in broader terms what needs to be accomplished.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m amazed that Krugman, as the preeminent Keynesian today when it comes to macro policy, completely ignores Keynes&#039;s advice on reform:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;You are engaged on a double task, Recovery and Reform;--recovery from the slump and the passage of those business and social reforms which are long overdue. For the first, speed and quick results are essential. The second may be urgent too; but haste will be injurious, and wisdom of long-range purpose is more necessary than immediate achievement... even wise and necessary Reform may, in some respects, impede and complicate Recovery.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good post Don - have a good weekend everybody.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think he&#39;s arguing that it&#39;s a model just yet &#8211; simply that it is where, in Krugman&#39;s words, there is &quot;serious consideration&quot; of how to move away from fee for service.  </p>
<p>Anyway, what I find more disjointed isn&#39;t the claim about Massachusetts &#8211; I largely agree with that one.  What I find inconsistent is Krugman&#39;s rush to a national public plan at all in light of problems at the state level still.  The most recent post on my blog is one about exactly this &#8211; letting the states take the initiative on health reform the way they did with welfare reform.  To the extent that any states perform especially well, those best practices can be applied elsewhere.  Some things can and should be done nationally this year: eliminating the tax priveleges of employer coverage, adjusting Medicare fee-for-service, and perhaps expanding Medicaid somewhat if that seems appropriate.  But I don&#39;t understand the logic of the rush to the national public plan.  One thing I actually did find refreshing and different in this morning&#39;s article was that for once Krugman somewhat silenced the public plan drumbeat and outlined in broader terms what needs to be accomplished.</p>
<p>I&#39;m amazed that Krugman, as the preeminent Keynesian today when it comes to macro policy, completely ignores Keynes&#39;s advice on reform:</p>
<p>&quot;You are engaged on a double task, Recovery and Reform;&#8211;recovery from the slump and the passage of those business and social reforms which are long overdue. For the first, speed and quick results are essential. The second may be urgent too; but haste will be injurious, and wisdom of long-range purpose is more necessary than immediate achievement&#8230; even wise and necessary Reform may, in some respects, impede and complicate Recovery.&quot;</p>
<p>Good post Don &#8211; have a good weekend everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can&#039;t wait to vote for Romney in 2012.  He&#039;ll really put an end to all this out-of-control healthcare nonsense President Obama&#039;s been trying to foist on us.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#39;t wait to vote for Romney in 2012.  He&#39;ll really put an end to all this out-of-control healthcare nonsense President Obama&#39;s been trying to foist on us.</p>
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