Comments on: Gillespie on Kennedy (and on Others on Kennedy) http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html where orders emerge Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:21:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: jimpierq http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-63018 jimpierq Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:45:19 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-63018 The remorse is really touching. We really ought to sympathize with Kennedy: he really wanted to feel terrible about it, but his political ambitions kept those feelings bottled up. The remorse is really touching. We really ought to sympathize with Kennedy: he really wanted to feel terrible about it, but his political ambitions kept those feelings bottled up.

]]> By: jimpierq http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-63017 jimpierq Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:42:03 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-63017 I don't share your concern, because I think any Congressman who would vote for it because of the Dead Lion, would have voted for it anyway. I don't share your concern, because I think any Congressman who would vote for it because of the Dead Lion, would have voted for it anyway.

]]> By: jimpierq http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-63016 jimpierq Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:31:47 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-63016 It seems to me "ignorant of human nature" treats Kennedy more generously than he deserves. Every human being with anything approaching his length of experience knows human nature. He simply chose to impose his set of beliefs on reality, and to ignore the mountains of evidence to the contrary. In doing so, because of the great power he enjoyed, he has done more damage to the political, economic and cultural fabric of this country arguably than anyone besides FDR and LBJ. He was a crook with a plausible-sounding excuse, that being the cause of the less-advantaged. The result: he robbed Americans at every level of advantaged-ness. And while I admit I cannot truly know his motivations, I suspect self-aggrandizement was much higher up the scale than compassion. It seems to me “ignorant of human nature” treats Kennedy more generously than he deserves. Every human being with anything approaching his length of experience knows human nature. He simply chose to impose his set of beliefs on reality, and to ignore the mountains of evidence to the contrary. In doing so, because of the great power he enjoyed, he has done more damage to the political, economic and cultural fabric of this country arguably than anyone besides FDR and LBJ. He was a crook with a plausible-sounding excuse, that being the cause of the less-advantaged. The result: he robbed Americans at every level of advantaged-ness. And while I admit I cannot truly know his motivations, I suspect self-aggrandizement was much higher up the scale than compassion.

]]> By: jimpierq http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-63015 jimpierq Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:24:49 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-63015 If that is not a Mencken quote, it could be. If that is not a Mencken quote, it could be.

]]> By: jimpierq http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58184 jimpierq Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:45:19 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58184 The remorse is really touching. We really ought to sympathize with Kennedy: he really wanted to feel terrible about it, but his political ambitions kept those feelings bottled up. The remorse is really touching. We really ought to sympathize with Kennedy: he really wanted to feel terrible about it, but his political ambitions kept those feelings bottled up.

]]> By: jimpierq http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58183 jimpierq Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:42:03 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58183 I don't share your concern, because I think any Congressman who would vote for it because of the Dead Lion, would have voted for it anyway. I don't share your concern, because I think any Congressman who would vote for it because of the Dead Lion, would have voted for it anyway.

]]> By: jimpierq http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58181 jimpierq Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:31:47 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58181 It seems to me "ignorant of human nature" treats Kennedy more generously than he deserves. Every human being with anything approaching his length of experience knows human nature. He simply chose to impose his set of beliefs on reality, and to ignore the mountains of evidence to the contrary. In doing so, because of the great power he enjoyed, he has done more damage to the political, economic and cultural fabric of this country arguably than anyone besides FDR and LBJ. He was a crook with a plausible-sounding excuse, that being the cause of the less-advantaged. The result: he robbed Americans at every level of advantaged-ness. It seems to me “ignorant of human nature” treats Kennedy more generously than he deserves. Every human being with anything approaching his length of experience knows human nature. He simply chose to impose his set of beliefs on reality, and to ignore the mountains of evidence to the contrary. In doing so, because of the great power he enjoyed, he has done more damage to the political, economic and cultural fabric of this country arguably than anyone besides FDR and LBJ. He was a crook with a plausible-sounding excuse, that being the cause of the less-advantaged. The result: he robbed Americans at every level of advantaged-ness.

]]> By: jimpierq http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58177 jimpierq Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:24:49 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58177 If that is not a Mencken quote, it could be. If that is not a Mencken quote, it could be.

]]> By: vikingvista http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58119 vikingvista Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:35:33 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58119 Remove the letter "i" in both those "d" words, and I'm with you. Remove the letter “i” in both those “d” words, and I'm with you.

]]> By: brotio http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58113 brotio Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:26:55 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58113 <I>Let's not forget Teddy's clarification of Chappaquiddick events to CBS correspondent, Roger Mudd, in 1980.</I><br><br>And I'll bet it illustrates another instance of liberal bias. I'm sure Roger let it pass; while the proper response should have been a double-take, and then, "... WHAT?" Let's not forget Teddy's clarification of Chappaquiddick events to CBS correspondent, Roger Mudd, in 1980.

And I'll bet it illustrates another instance of liberal bias. I'm sure Roger let it pass; while the proper response should have been a double-take, and then, “… WHAT?”

]]> By: brotio http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58111 brotio Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:16:38 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58111 <I>... extremely well-intentioned but ignorant</I><br><br>You're willing to give him more benefit of the doubt than I am. <br><br>I think Kennedy knew full well what he was doing. Empowering the State and enriching himself. His little drive off the bridge shows me all I ever needed to know about his compassion for people. … extremely well-intentioned but ignorant

You're willing to give him more benefit of the doubt than I am.

I think Kennedy knew full well what he was doing. Empowering the State and enriching himself. His little drive off the bridge shows me all I ever needed to know about his compassion for people.

]]> By: vikingvista http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58103 vikingvista Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:24:04 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58103 It should be a great shame to be remembered as a politician. It should be a great shame to be remembered as a politician.

]]> By: Seth http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58099 Seth Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:04:28 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58099 Now that would be ironic. With all the legislation he greased through to push the government into health care, he (or his family name) may have a fair amount of responsibility for the Rube Goldberg medical and health insurance mess we have. To take it further in his honor might convince me of the need for a strict estate tax to prevent the passing down of vast family fortunes. He may have made different contributions if he had to earn his keep. Now that would be ironic. With all the legislation he greased through to push the government into health care, he (or his family name) may have a fair amount of responsibility for the Rube Goldberg medical and health insurance mess we have. To take it further in his honor might convince me of the need for a strict estate tax to prevent the passing down of vast family fortunes. He may have made different contributions if he had to earn his keep.

]]> By: Seth http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58091 Seth Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:21:06 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58091 I agree with your first part. I disagree with your second part. The best strategy to get liberals against big government is to get W to support it. <br><br>They want big government when their people are running the show. They forget that might not be permanent. I agree with your first part. I disagree with your second part. The best strategy to get liberals against big government is to get W to support it.

They want big government when their people are running the show. They forget that might not be permanent.

]]> By: danielkuehn http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58061 danielkuehn Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:12:17 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58061 :) awww, you guys :) awww, you guys

]]> By: danielkuehn http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58060 danielkuehn Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:08:35 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58060 RE: "I encourage you to talk to more Liberals about it. I was called a racist once, when talking about NCLB,...liberal tolerance! "<br><br>Oh that doesn't surprise me. I'm not saying liberals love it by any means. And no party has a monopoly on dumbass comments. But even Obama is embracing the concept behind it. And Kennedy backed it too. I'm just saying it isn't something there is universal liberal opposition to, that's all. RE: “I encourage you to talk to more Liberals about it. I was called a racist once, when talking about NCLB,…liberal tolerance! “

Oh that doesn't surprise me. I'm not saying liberals love it by any means. And no party has a monopoly on dumbass comments. But even Obama is embracing the concept behind it. And Kennedy backed it too. I'm just saying it isn't something there is universal liberal opposition to, that's all.

]]> By: JeffreyEdelman http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58049 JeffreyEdelman Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:54:19 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58049 What's funny about this comment is that it points out that MOST politicians actually feel the same way; it's just that liberal Dems can get the federal government to move huge mountains (while dropping them on many) while non-liberal democrats try to move the mountain piece by piece which is never accompanied by a huge signing ceremony. What's funny about this comment is that it points out that MOST politicians actually feel the same way; it's just that liberal Dems can get the federal government to move huge mountains (while dropping them on many) while non-liberal democrats try to move the mountain piece by piece which is never accompanied by a huge signing ceremony.

]]> By: Justin Palmer http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58037 Justin Palmer Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:08:10 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58037 =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =)

]]> By: Methinks http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58035 Methinks Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:51:31 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58035 Surely, you misunderstand him. We all do.<br><br>Do you think if I put a bunch of smiley faces in this post he won't take it seriously enough to launch into a multi-paragraph defense? Surely, you misunderstand him. We all do.

Do you think if I put a bunch of smiley faces in this post he won't take it seriously enough to launch into a multi-paragraph defense?

]]> By: Justin Palmer http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/gillespie-on-kennedy-and-others-on-kennedy.html/comment-page-1#comment-58033 Justin Palmer Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:47:46 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6037#comment-58033 I'm a born again Libertarian so I feel for him a little bit. I'm a born again Libertarian so I feel for him a little bit.

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