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	<description>where orders emerge</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While you&#039;re investigating bailout mania for your magnum opus, don&#039;t forget &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arnoldwatch.org/articles/articles_000693.php3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;state employee pension funds&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you&#8217;re investigating bailout mania for your magnum opus, don&#8217;t forget <a href="http://www.arnoldwatch.org/articles/articles_000693.php3" rel="nofollow">state employee pension funds</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction - you need to be able to estimate the cash flows to come. Since the government keeps piling money into the GSEs to cover losses, my guess is those cash flows are probably worth a lot less than the Fed paid for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction &#8211; you need to be able to estimate the cash flows to come. Since the government keeps piling money into the GSEs to cover losses, my guess is those cash flows are probably worth a lot less than the Fed paid for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the present value of those securities?  You need to know the cash flow behind them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the present value of those securities?  You need to know the cash flow behind them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  Can the world tolerate more than one Methinks?

BTW, this will be chump change compared to how much is needed to bail out Fannie Med - if that should come to pass (God forbid and call your representatives NOW.  Love, Astroturf).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  Can the world tolerate more than one Methinks?</p>
<p>BTW, this will be chump change compared to how much is needed to bail out Fannie Med &#8211; if that should come to pass (God forbid and call your representatives NOW.  Love, Astroturf).</p>
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		<title>By: Surfisto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surfisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vikingvista,
What numbers did you run? I understand Freddie Mac to have taken 50 billion or so. This past quarter they paid the gov&#039;t a 1 billion dividend at this rate the 50 billion will be paid off in 12.5 years. There balance sheets shows close to 1 trillion in long term debt, not sure how much of that is &quot;toxic&quot; or worth nothing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vikingvista,<br />
What numbers did you run? I understand Freddie Mac to have taken 50 billion or so. This past quarter they paid the gov&#8217;t a 1 billion dividend at this rate the 50 billion will be paid off in 12.5 years. There balance sheets shows close to 1 trillion in long term debt, not sure how much of that is &#8220;toxic&#8221; or worth nothing.</p>
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