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		<title>By: I Love All Dems &#38; Repubs</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/sen-compassion.html/comment-page-1#comment-181474</link>
		<dc:creator>I Love All Dems &#38; Repubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a difference in the stimulus provided by the Bush administration than the stimulus provided by the Obama administration.  Bush&#039;s stimulus provided bailouts for failing banks and creditors.  Obama&#039;s stimulus provided funding to states and other federal programs to keep teachers in classrooms, police on the streets, and students in college.  The teachers, police, and other state employees who were able to keep their job due to the stimulus funds from President Obama will be paying taxes on their income.  Some of the financial institutions who received federal bailouts have no obligation to repay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference in the stimulus provided by the Bush administration than the stimulus provided by the Obama administration.  Bush&#8217;s stimulus provided bailouts for failing banks and creditors.  Obama&#8217;s stimulus provided funding to states and other federal programs to keep teachers in classrooms, police on the streets, and students in college.  The teachers, police, and other state employees who were able to keep their job due to the stimulus funds from President Obama will be paying taxes on their income.  Some of the financial institutions who received federal bailouts have no obligation to repay.</p>
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		<title>By: I Love All Dems &#38; Repubs</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/sen-compassion.html/comment-page-1#comment-181468</link>
		<dc:creator>I Love All Dems &#38; Repubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Attack Ted Kennedy/messanger and not the issue of health care reform.  Health Care reform is not just about the rising number of Americans who do not have or cannot afford health care insurance.  Health Care reform is also needed for stabilizing the American economy.  Attack all of those who are for health care reform if you so desire, but the fact remains that not only has the number of uninsured tripled over the last two decades the cost has increased over 300% as well and continues to increase at the same rate.  Our government will be completely broke financial in a decade or two if nothing is done.  Just like medical care is responsible for 60% of all bankrupcy in America, it will eventually, if nothing is done, bankrupt America.  I am a disable retired vet and now a federal employee.  The services that I recieve from the VA hospital, military hospital, and from federal employee insurance is awesome and I hope that all legal American can have the same options as I do.  I do not mind sharing with all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Attack Ted Kennedy/messanger and not the issue of health care reform.  Health Care reform is not just about the rising number of Americans who do not have or cannot afford health care insurance.  Health Care reform is also needed for stabilizing the American economy.  Attack all of those who are for health care reform if you so desire, but the fact remains that not only has the number of uninsured tripled over the last two decades the cost has increased over 300% as well and continues to increase at the same rate.  Our government will be completely broke financial in a decade or two if nothing is done.  Just like medical care is responsible for 60% of all bankrupcy in America, it will eventually, if nothing is done, bankrupt America.  I am a disable retired vet and now a federal employee.  The services that I recieve from the VA hospital, military hospital, and from federal employee insurance is awesome and I hope that all legal American can have the same options as I do.  I do not mind sharing with all.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition, Teddy was a murdering, lying, cheating, communist scumbag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition, Teddy was a murdering, lying, cheating, communist scumbag.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;respectful silence&quot; while many voices are praising a despicable person is absolutely the worst respanse.  It is not just appropriate, but necessary and important to speak the truth, especially now.  Using the phrase &quot;his weakness&quot; is an insult to anybody who values freedom and justice.  Leaving someone to drown is not a &quot;weakness&quot;  Using your position and family power to avoid the consequences of your actions is not a &quot;weakness&quot;  Do you know anybody evil enough to send a young woman to her death and not make even the slightest attempt to save her???!?!??!  And you suggest criticism is in poor taste????!!!?!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;respectful silence&#8221; while many voices are praising a despicable person is absolutely the worst respanse.  It is not just appropriate, but necessary and important to speak the truth, especially now.  Using the phrase &#8220;his weakness&#8221; is an insult to anybody who values freedom and justice.  Leaving someone to drown is not a &#8220;weakness&#8221;  Using your position and family power to avoid the consequences of your actions is not a &#8220;weakness&#8221;  Do you know anybody evil enough to send a young woman to her death and not make even the slightest attempt to save her???!?!??!  And you suggest criticism is in poor taste????!!!?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin Brock wrote:

&lt;i&gt;No. I&#039;m defining &quot;right to do something&quot; consistently. An armed robber has no right to take my wallet forcibly, because he is not the established monopoly of force; however, the established monopoly does have rights to my wallet, and it effectively demonstrates the rights every April 15th..&lt;/i&gt;

Nonsense. You are destroying the meaning of “right to do something“ by conflating it with “monopoly power“.  This is hardly any more justified than simply conflating it with “power“.

An act doesn&#039;t become &quot;right&quot; merely because it is done by those possessing monopoly power.  The mass slaughters perpetuated by history&#039;s various dictatorships are not &quot;right&quot; just because those who did it held &quot;monopoly power&quot;.  Why on earth would you claim such a thing? It’s ridiculous.

The net effect of your approach to concepts is to obliterate any possible distinction between right and wrong.  According to your definition -- since both are acts of “monopoly power” -- the police officer who interrupts an attempted rape, thereby saving the rape victim and apprehending the rapist, has the same moral standing as did Hussein’s thugs who dragged women at random off the streets of Baghdad into the regime’s rape rooms for a night of torture.  According to your definitions, both parties had an equal “right” to do what they did. To equate rapists and murderers with those who protect us from rape and murder is a moral obscenity. 

And this statement: 

&lt;i&gt;So the just man is a thief, and property is theft.&lt;/i&gt;

This is more nonsense.  This is the logical fallacy of the &quot;stolen concept&quot;.  The concept of &quot;theft&quot; only has meaning as a contrast to the antecedent concept of that which is &quot;rightfully owned&quot;, i.e. that which is, properly, &quot;property&quot;.  To claim that property itself is theft, is to use one concept -- &quot;theft&quot; -- to deny the legitimacy of the very concept -- &quot;property&quot; -- that gives &quot;theft&quot; any meaning, which is, literally, a contradiction in terms.

Your entire epistemological approach destroys the meanings of concepts by obliterating the legitimate distinctions between them.  It’s just like the ridiculous nonsense you’ve peddled here before that “capitalism is whatever capitalists do” and “a capitalist is anyone who controls capital”.  This means that Stalin -- who did indeed “control capital” -- qualifies as a capitalist and his acts of mass murder and the looting of millions of individual’s property become acts of “capitalism”.  

Defining a concept so that it can mean one thing and can also mean the &lt;b&gt;opposite&lt;/b&gt; thing is to give it no specific meaning at all; such a definition renders the concept meaningless and useless. This approach to definitions is errant nonsense that only sows epistemological confusion and destroys the utility of concepts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Brock wrote:</p>
<p><i>No. I&#8217;m defining &#8220;right to do something&#8221; consistently. An armed robber has no right to take my wallet forcibly, because he is not the established monopoly of force; however, the established monopoly does have rights to my wallet, and it effectively demonstrates the rights every April 15th..</i></p>
<p>Nonsense. You are destroying the meaning of “right to do something“ by conflating it with “monopoly power“.  This is hardly any more justified than simply conflating it with “power“.</p>
<p>An act doesn&#8217;t become &#8220;right&#8221; merely because it is done by those possessing monopoly power.  The mass slaughters perpetuated by history&#8217;s various dictatorships are not &#8220;right&#8221; just because those who did it held &#8220;monopoly power&#8221;.  Why on earth would you claim such a thing? It’s ridiculous.</p>
<p>The net effect of your approach to concepts is to obliterate any possible distinction between right and wrong.  According to your definition &#8212; since both are acts of “monopoly power” &#8212; the police officer who interrupts an attempted rape, thereby saving the rape victim and apprehending the rapist, has the same moral standing as did Hussein’s thugs who dragged women at random off the streets of Baghdad into the regime’s rape rooms for a night of torture.  According to your definitions, both parties had an equal “right” to do what they did. To equate rapists and murderers with those who protect us from rape and murder is a moral obscenity. </p>
<p>And this statement: </p>
<p><i>So the just man is a thief, and property is theft.</i></p>
<p>This is more nonsense.  This is the logical fallacy of the &#8220;stolen concept&#8221;.  The concept of &#8220;theft&#8221; only has meaning as a contrast to the antecedent concept of that which is &#8220;rightfully owned&#8221;, i.e. that which is, properly, &#8220;property&#8221;.  To claim that property itself is theft, is to use one concept &#8212; &#8220;theft&#8221; &#8212; to deny the legitimacy of the very concept &#8212; &#8220;property&#8221; &#8212; that gives &#8220;theft&#8221; any meaning, which is, literally, a contradiction in terms.</p>
<p>Your entire epistemological approach destroys the meanings of concepts by obliterating the legitimate distinctions between them.  It’s just like the ridiculous nonsense you’ve peddled here before that “capitalism is whatever capitalists do” and “a capitalist is anyone who controls capital”.  This means that Stalin &#8212; who did indeed “control capital” &#8212; qualifies as a capitalist and his acts of mass murder and the looting of millions of individual’s property become acts of “capitalism”.  </p>
<p>Defining a concept so that it can mean one thing and can also mean the <b>opposite</b> thing is to give it no specific meaning at all; such a definition renders the concept meaningless and useless. This approach to definitions is errant nonsense that only sows epistemological confusion and destroys the utility of concepts.</p>
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