Comments on: We Have Merit Pay at the Collegiate Level http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/we-have-merit-pay-at-the-collegiate-level.html where orders emerge Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:06:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Mike in Texas http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/we-have-merit-pay-at-the-collegiate-level.html/comment-page-1#comment-175881 Mike in Texas Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:31:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=5614#comment-175881 Brotio, A cut in pay would motivate me to seek another job. I DO have children, a house and a crippling need for food. Brotio,

A cut in pay would motivate me to seek another job. I DO have children, a house and a crippling need for food.

]]> By: Economist nails illogic on teacher pay « Schools for Tomorrow - Education News Colorado - Colorado’s Comprehensive Site for Education News http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/we-have-merit-pay-at-the-collegiate-level.html/comment-page-1#comment-54817 Economist nails illogic on teacher pay « Schools for Tomorrow - Education News Colorado - Colorado’s Comprehensive Site for Education News Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:19:44 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=5614#comment-54817 [...] The letter (H/T Joanne Jacobs) was written by George Mason University’s Don Boudreaux, and it reads with all the logic and dry wit of an economist, yet adding more panache than one might typically expect from the “dismal” science. Here’s the key excerpt: In a letter in today’s Washington Post, former Fairfax County Federation of Teachers president Rick Nelson insists that merit pay for teachers will not result in better teaching. In other words, the prospect of higher pay will not prompt teachers to perform better in the classroom. Briefly, teachers don’t respond to monetary incentives, or monetary incentives are so easy to game that using such incentives causes more harm than benefit. [...] [...] The letter (H/T Joanne Jacobs) was written by George Mason University’s Don Boudreaux, and it reads with all the logic and dry wit of an economist, yet adding more panache than one might typically expect from the “dismal” science. Here’s the key excerpt: In a letter in today’s Washington Post, former Fairfax County Federation of Teachers president Rick Nelson insists that merit pay for teachers will not result in better teaching. In other words, the prospect of higher pay will not prompt teachers to perform better in the classroom. Briefly, teachers don’t respond to monetary incentives, or monetary incentives are so easy to game that using such incentives causes more harm than benefit. [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/we-have-merit-pay-at-the-collegiate-level.html/comment-page-1#comment-175850 Anonymous Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:12:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=5614#comment-175850 Uh, had you not taken Burk Files to task for <I>moran</I> I probably would have let this pass: <I>It had not the slightest effect on how a teach, I do the best I can all the time.</I> <I>My beef with Don is that as an economist he believes everyone is motivated by money.</I> How much will your pay have to be cut before you <B>are</B> motivated by money? Uh, had you not taken Burk Files to task for moran I probably would have let this pass:

It had not the slightest effect on how a teach, I do the best I can all the time.

My beef with Don is that as an economist he believes everyone is motivated by money.

How much will your pay have to be cut before you are motivated by money?

]]> By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/we-have-merit-pay-at-the-collegiate-level.html/comment-page-1#comment-175846 Anonymous Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:54:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=5614#comment-175846 Mike, I realized after the fact that you were probably not talking about what I had written. Sorry. Texas has a lot of things in line better than elsewhere in the nation; I'm glad that unions are more hamstrung then elsewhere. This naturally makes them less destructive. Mike,

I realized after the fact that you were probably not talking about what I had written. Sorry.

Texas has a lot of things in line better than elsewhere in the nation; I’m glad that unions are more hamstrung then elsewhere. This naturally makes them less destructive.

]]> By: Mike in Texas http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/we-have-merit-pay-at-the-collegiate-level.html/comment-page-1#comment-175840 Mike in Texas Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:50:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=5614#comment-175840 Indianjim, Here in Texas teachers' unions are very different, since teachers cannot, by law, strike or collective bargain. Therefore the unions are little more than insurance and information providers. AND, as a classroom teacher of 17 years experience I know a little bit about teachers and education. I even work in a school that has a merit pay scheme and got a nice bonus check. It had not the slightest effect on how a teach, I do the best I can all the time. My beef with Don is that as an economist he believes everyone is motivated by money. BTW, the idiotic statements I was referring to were not yours but Hayek's belief we should cut teacher pay. Indianjim,

Here in Texas teachers’ unions are very different, since teachers cannot, by law, strike or collective bargain. Therefore the unions are little more than insurance and information providers.

AND, as a classroom teacher of 17 years experience I know a little bit about teachers and education. I even work in a school that has a merit pay scheme and got a nice bonus check. It had not the slightest effect on how a teach, I do the best I can all the time. My beef with Don is that as an economist he believes everyone is motivated by money.

BTW, the idiotic statements I was referring to were not yours but Hayek’s belief we should cut teacher pay.

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