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		<title>By: Frederick Davies</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/where-ive-been-and-where-im-going.html/comment-page-1#comment-176134</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederick Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems other people are also resistant to abandon rationality concerning this crisis:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/6001161/Dont-look-for-the-irrational-in-the-credit-crisis-we-do-stuff-for-a-reason.html

By the way, why was my previous post in this thread eliminated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems other people are also resistant to abandon rationality concerning this crisis:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/6001161/Dont-look-for-the-irrational-in-the-credit-crisis-we-do-stuff-for-a-reason.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/6001161/Dont-look-for-the-irrational-in-the-credit-crisis-we-do-stuff-for-a-reason.html</a></p>
<p>By the way, why was my previous post in this thread eliminated?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The supply guy is on to something.  Hazlett says holding rates artificially low encourages speculative activities.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The supply guy is on to something.  Hazlett says holding rates artificially low encourages speculative activities.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/where-ive-been-and-where-im-going.html/comment-page-1#comment-176083</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the banks funded speculators....No they wouldn&#039;t...would they???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the banks funded speculators&#8230;.No they wouldn&#8217;t&#8230;would they???</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/where-ive-been-and-where-im-going.html/comment-page-1#comment-176028</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost every analysis of this looks only at the demand side.  When you do that, you come up with explanations like principal-agent problems leading to mispriced risk, poor financial regulation leading to regulatory arbitrage, interest rates held too low for too long, and so on.  But the supply side is also important.  In jurisdictions where the supply response was not artificially constrained by zoning laws, there was not much of a bubble, and prices have not fallen drastically.  This should not be forgotten.  It takes a lot of bad laws to create this big of a mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost every analysis of this looks only at the demand side.  When you do that, you come up with explanations like principal-agent problems leading to mispriced risk, poor financial regulation leading to regulatory arbitrage, interest rates held too low for too long, and so on.  But the supply side is also important.  In jurisdictions where the supply response was not artificially constrained by zoning laws, there was not much of a bubble, and prices have not fallen drastically.  This should not be forgotten.  It takes a lot of bad laws to create this big of a mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 01:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I may be so bold, I still like my explanation, &quot;How Did the Mortgage Mess Happen&quot; at http://businomics.typepad.com/businomics_blog/2008/05/why-did-the-m-4.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may be so bold, I still like my explanation, &#8220;How Did the Mortgage Mess Happen&#8221; at <a href="http://businomics.typepad.com/businomics_blog/2008/05/why-did-the-m-4.html" rel="nofollow">http://businomics.typepad.com/businomics_blog/2008/05/why-did-the-m-4.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Pointer</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/08/where-ive-been-and-where-im-going.html/comment-page-1#comment-175980</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Pointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He posted on that about a week ago.</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Pointer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Pointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Roberts,

I am a comparative political economy guy - not totally Rat. Choice Institutionalist but sympathetic. To me it is strange for all those on the left to say that institutions can solve so many of these problems, and then for them to deny that those same institutions can cause problems. I makes my head spin. 

Could Neoclassical myopia to institutions reinforce the myopia of behavioral economics? This is the key question for me. Both ignore institutions and it doesn&#039;t serve them well.

Hope to read the new book.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Roberts,</p>
<p>I am a comparative political economy guy &#8211; not totally Rat. Choice Institutionalist but sympathetic. To me it is strange for all those on the left to say that institutions can solve so many of these problems, and then for them to deny that those same institutions can cause problems. I makes my head spin. </p>
<p>Could Neoclassical myopia to institutions reinforce the myopia of behavioral economics? This is the key question for me. Both ignore institutions and it doesn&#8217;t serve them well.</p>
<p>Hope to read the new book.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew_M_Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew_M_Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Vingvista,

&quot;Off budget&quot; literally means not in the accounting of the US. People can make their own estimates, but it remains an outside opinion, not the official determination of the government.

For example, an estimate for the unfunded liability of the Medicare program for treating our ageing population is $30 to $40 trillion (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usdebtclock.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Debt Clock&lt;/a&gt;). The government doesn&#039;t take that seriously because it is not in the budget. The Medicare program is not a legal promise, but merely a policy, so the government doesn&#039;t include this as an offical obligation of the US.

The current national debt is $11.6 trillion, and GDP is $13 trillion.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac borrowed $5.4 trillion on the private bond market at a time when the official US debt was $5.5 trillion. This was off-budget, not included in the US debt, because FanFred were officially private companies, despite being sponsored, controlled, privileged, and regulated by Congress. The bond markets and ratings agencies rated FanFred debt almost the same as US debt, recognizing the reality that Congress was implicitly guaranteeing that debt. Congress would never let FanFred default on its debt because the story would get out about Congress&#039;s involvement, in a very public way.

I speculate that many of the bailouts were motivated by paying off the lenders to the bailees, debt that was implicitly guaranteed by Congressional handshake.

Guarantees by Congress are always considered &quot;costless&quot;, because regulation is supposed to keep the guaranteed banks and institutions from doing anything risky. Then, Congress pushes or allows those organizations to do risky things. The 1980&#039;s Savings and Loan crisis was a direct result of guaranteeing the depositors to the S&amp;L&#039;s while allowing the S&amp;L&#039;s to expand their lending beyond residential housing. This is parallel to our current situation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Vingvista,</p>
<p>&#8220;Off budget&#8221; literally means not in the accounting of the US. People can make their own estimates, but it remains an outside opinion, not the official determination of the government.</p>
<p>For example, an estimate for the unfunded liability of the Medicare program for treating our ageing population is $30 to $40 trillion (<a href="http://www.usdebtclock.org/" rel="nofollow">US Debt Clock</a>). The government doesn&#8217;t take that seriously because it is not in the budget. The Medicare program is not a legal promise, but merely a policy, so the government doesn&#8217;t include this as an offical obligation of the US.</p>
<p>The current national debt is $11.6 trillion, and GDP is $13 trillion.</p>
<p>Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac borrowed $5.4 trillion on the private bond market at a time when the official US debt was $5.5 trillion. This was off-budget, not included in the US debt, because FanFred were officially private companies, despite being sponsored, controlled, privileged, and regulated by Congress. The bond markets and ratings agencies rated FanFred debt almost the same as US debt, recognizing the reality that Congress was implicitly guaranteeing that debt. Congress would never let FanFred default on its debt because the story would get out about Congress&#8217;s involvement, in a very public way.</p>
<p>I speculate that many of the bailouts were motivated by paying off the lenders to the bailees, debt that was implicitly guaranteed by Congressional handshake.</p>
<p>Guarantees by Congress are always considered &#8220;costless&#8221;, because regulation is supposed to keep the guaranteed banks and institutions from doing anything risky. Then, Congress pushes or allows those organizations to do risky things. The 1980&#8242;s Savings and Loan crisis was a direct result of guaranteeing the depositors to the S&amp;L&#8217;s while allowing the S&amp;L&#8217;s to expand their lending beyond residential housing. This is parallel to our current situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ,

Have you seen the special issue of Critical Review just out on the causes of the financial crisis?  Jeff Friedman has an interesting introductory essay entitled &quot;A Crisis of Politics, Not Economics.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ,</p>
<p>Have you seen the special issue of Critical Review just out on the causes of the financial crisis?  Jeff Friedman has an interesting introductory essay entitled &#8220;A Crisis of Politics, Not Economics.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US Products, Crap, I hate when I write these things while taking phone calls. China can buy US products if they want, not necessarily US treasuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US Products, Crap, I hate when I write these things while taking phone calls. China can buy US products if they want, not necessarily US treasuries.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t blame China or the trade deficit. When China trades with us they have to do something with the dollars. I would suggest that they don&#039;t NEED to buy US Treasuries, they could also buy US dollars but what they do with the money is ultimately their choice. The fact that the bought dollars suited their purposes, I don&#039;t expect that they considered what was best for the US when they made their choice just like we don&#039;t consider what is best for China when we make choices. But their choice and the choice of millions of Japanese had an impact for certain. Just like the choices of millions of others world wide to buy real estate with those cheap currencies and interest rates had an impact. It&#039;s not good or bad necessarily, its just history now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t blame China or the trade deficit. When China trades with us they have to do something with the dollars. I would suggest that they don&#8217;t NEED to buy US Treasuries, they could also buy US dollars but what they do with the money is ultimately their choice. The fact that the bought dollars suited their purposes, I don&#8217;t expect that they considered what was best for the US when they made their choice just like we don&#8217;t consider what is best for China when we make choices. But their choice and the choice of millions of Japanese had an impact for certain. Just like the choices of millions of others world wide to buy real estate with those cheap currencies and interest rates had an impact. It&#8217;s not good or bad necessarily, its just history now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the mechanism, that is not the problem in my mind. Plus, only a few were into the buy, flip, profit mode, most did not have the courage to risk nor the ambition to do.

Most were just people who intended to live in the house they bought. These are the ones I don&#039;t understand, the ones who knew full well that there would come a time in the probable near future when they would have to default unless they won a mega millions lottery, and they still did it. That, in MHO makes them moral degenerates, like any common thief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the mechanism, that is not the problem in my mind. Plus, only a few were into the buy, flip, profit mode, most did not have the courage to risk nor the ambition to do.</p>
<p>Most were just people who intended to live in the house they bought. These are the ones I don&#8217;t understand, the ones who knew full well that there would come a time in the probable near future when they would have to default unless they won a mega millions lottery, and they still did it. That, in MHO makes them moral degenerates, like any common thief.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it does sound like a bit of a contadiction.  And the engineered &#039;game&#039; was going along great until the interest rates began to rise and the ARMs started to reset.  That hurt the people that got into homes that they really could not afford once the interest rates normalized.

Also, until this happened, many with home loans and non-ARM mortgages were using their home price&#039;s appreciation to suck equity out for their additional spending money.  However, that seemigly perpetual party ended after the ARMs folks walked away from their obligations, leaving many forclosures on the market and causing price depreciation for the first time in a long time.  Without the home price appreciation -- and the additional spending money -- the party ended!  

Where all this is irrational is the thinking by my a great many people that the party was never going to end.  With the benefit of hindsight, it seemed like a no-brainer; that more people should have seen this coming.  In fact, Greenspan warned of the asset bubble in housing and even made threats that it had to be popped.  Sometimes &#039;the crowd&#039; does unwise long-term things even as they are rationally responding to the incentives they face.  Naturally, though, in today&#039;s society here in the USA, the government feels somewhat guilty for the boom/bust incentives they laid out so they chose unburden two groups for the natural consequences that played out: those that walked away from their obligations and those &#039;market players&#039; that over-leveraged themselves believing that the housing prices would always keep appreciating. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it does sound like a bit of a contadiction.  And the engineered &#8216;game&#8217; was going along great until the interest rates began to rise and the ARMs started to reset.  That hurt the people that got into homes that they really could not afford once the interest rates normalized.</p>
<p>Also, until this happened, many with home loans and non-ARM mortgages were using their home price&#8217;s appreciation to suck equity out for their additional spending money.  However, that seemigly perpetual party ended after the ARMs folks walked away from their obligations, leaving many forclosures on the market and causing price depreciation for the first time in a long time.  Without the home price appreciation &#8212; and the additional spending money &#8212; the party ended!  </p>
<p>Where all this is irrational is the thinking by my a great many people that the party was never going to end.  With the benefit of hindsight, it seemed like a no-brainer; that more people should have seen this coming.  In fact, Greenspan warned of the asset bubble in housing and even made threats that it had to be popped.  Sometimes &#8216;the crowd&#8217; does unwise long-term things even as they are rationally responding to the incentives they face.  Naturally, though, in today&#8217;s society here in the USA, the government feels somewhat guilty for the boom/bust incentives they laid out so they chose unburden two groups for the natural consequences that played out: those that walked away from their obligations and those &#8216;market players&#8217; that over-leveraged themselves believing that the housing prices would always keep appreciating.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole animal spirits literature - not the &quot;animal spirits&quot; black box of Keynes particularly, but the more analytic work of people like Minsky and Shiller - gets a bad reputation when it&#039;s dismissed as &quot;irrational frenzy&quot;.  Overconfidence, speculative bubbles, and animal spirits aren&#039;t &quot;irrational&quot; - and I think most responsible people don&#039;t claim they&#039;re irrational (although Shiller uses the word, so it does get confusing).  They&#039;re just a rational response to limited information, limited information processing capabilities, emotion, and adherence to rules of thumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole animal spirits literature &#8211; not the &#8220;animal spirits&#8221; black box of Keynes particularly, but the more analytic work of people like Minsky and Shiller &#8211; gets a bad reputation when it&#8217;s dismissed as &#8220;irrational frenzy&#8221;.  Overconfidence, speculative bubbles, and animal spirits aren&#8217;t &#8220;irrational&#8221; &#8211; and I think most responsible people don&#8217;t claim they&#8217;re irrational (although Shiller uses the word, so it does get confusing).  They&#8217;re just a rational response to limited information, limited information processing capabilities, emotion, and adherence to rules of thumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ-
Very exciting!  What role do &quot;global imbalances&quot; and East Asian savings rates have to play in your analysis?  While Greenspan&#039;s expansionary policy I think certainly played a role, I&#039;ve had a tought time figuring out how that interacted with global imbalances.  I think we&#039;ve seen great cases that both are significant, but I haven&#039;t heard really good arguments for how to allot explanatory power between the two.  Although your post seems to focus on firm and household behavior, so perhaps you don&#039;t touch on that as much.  Looking forward to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ-<br />
Very exciting!  What role do &#8220;global imbalances&#8221; and East Asian savings rates have to play in your analysis?  While Greenspan&#8217;s expansionary policy I think certainly played a role, I&#8217;ve had a tought time figuring out how that interacted with global imbalances.  I think we&#8217;ve seen great cases that both are significant, but I haven&#8217;t heard really good arguments for how to allot explanatory power between the two.  Although your post seems to focus on firm and household behavior, so perhaps you don&#8217;t touch on that as much.  Looking forward to it!</p>
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		<title>By: Frederick Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederick Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the essay be published here?</description>
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		<title>By: Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update Russ. I was beginning to think that you had wore yourself out. Looking forward to your essay and/or book. Take care. Steve G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update Russ. I was beginning to think that you had wore yourself out. Looking forward to your essay and/or book. Take care. Steve G.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since China has to get dollars from somewhere to by US Treasuries, do you ultimately blame the trade deficit?  And if that, then do you ultimately blame...I don&#039;t know, Bretton-Woods?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since China has to get dollars from somewhere to by US Treasuries, do you ultimately blame the trade deficit?  And if that, then do you ultimately blame&#8230;I don&#8217;t know, Bretton-Woods?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure it does.  Given what you never bought into, but many others did, the borrowers could afford it, especially with the low cost ARMs.  Flip in two years, or take the savings for refinancing in two years.  Easy money, easy house.  And it worked for some.

For the banks, there was the CRA stick, the Fannie/Freddie carrot, and the mountains of cash from the Fed.  I don&#039;t know if bankers bought into the idea that home prices would always rise, but with those other factors, they didn&#039;t really have to.

The threshold for approval has everything to do with risk of loan nonrepayment.  Economic and political conditions made the risk either seem low, or irrelevant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure it does.  Given what you never bought into, but many others did, the borrowers could afford it, especially with the low cost ARMs.  Flip in two years, or take the savings for refinancing in two years.  Easy money, easy house.  And it worked for some.</p>
<p>For the banks, there was the CRA stick, the Fannie/Freddie carrot, and the mountains of cash from the Fed.  I don&#8217;t know if bankers bought into the idea that home prices would always rise, but with those other factors, they didn&#8217;t really have to.</p>
<p>The threshold for approval has everything to do with risk of loan nonrepayment.  Economic and political conditions made the risk either seem low, or irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;off-budget&quot;

I haven&#039;t read your link yet, but what do you think the specific repurcussions of being off-budget are?</description>
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<p>I haven&#8217;t read your link yet, but what do you think the specific repurcussions of being off-budget are?</p>
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