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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reform of our broken corrupt justice system is a utopian dream anyway. 

Legislatures have shown themselves to be corrupt, and juries have shown themselves to be corruptible, as well as frequently easily flummoxed by pseudo science and disingenuous jargon such as DK practices here.

Loser pays would be far superior to what our judicial cesspool has evolved into, but I also see lifetime appointments to SCOTUS as being particularly troubling as it allows a man/woman, once appointed, to not only ignore fear of being fired or pressured, but to exercise and exert their personal bias and beliefs into their work without fear of censure or termination. It is obvious that such judges do indeed insert their personal bias into law and justice.

Last and not least, I believe we are nearing a point where lawyers will be an actual majority of the citizenry, at least that&#039;s my impression. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reform of our broken corrupt justice system is a utopian dream anyway. </p>
<p>Legislatures have shown themselves to be corrupt, and juries have shown themselves to be corruptible, as well as frequently easily flummoxed by pseudo science and disingenuous jargon such as DK practices here.</p>
<p>Loser pays would be far superior to what our judicial cesspool has evolved into, but I also see lifetime appointments to SCOTUS as being particularly troubling as it allows a man/woman, once appointed, to not only ignore fear of being fired or pressured, but to exercise and exert their personal bias and beliefs into their work without fear of censure or termination. It is obvious that such judges do indeed insert their personal bias into law and justice.</p>
<p>Last and not least, I believe we are nearing a point where lawyers will be an actual majority of the citizenry, at least that&#8217;s my impression.</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever had government made beer? </description>
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		<title>By: Methinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For his wife or for himself, you&#039;re asking? I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re getting at exactly.

It&#039;s been a while since my economics classes too.  I remember that we talked about how the market &quot;rations&quot; scarce resources.

We &quot;ration&quot; our own resources by making trade-offs. For the sake of argument, let&#039;s say there is no public assistance for the poor at all.  The man can take an extra job or work out a payment scheme with the doctor (I did that when I was poor and had no insurance) or receive charity or a combination.  The point is, he can choose his own level of consumption.  

If government rations resources, then this man and his wife will get exactly what government decides and no more.  All other avenues to receiving the health care he wants are cut off for him.  The government chooses his maximum level of consumption and he can do nothing about it.  Unless, of course, he happens to be politically connected, but the poor rarely are.

Obviously, the big difference is when you ration your own resources, you control your level of consumption.  When government rations, your level of consumption is dictated to you.  You have no control.

Statists love to conflate the two meanings of the word &quot;ration&quot; in order to create the illusion that it&#039;s all the same thing.  &quot;Trust us, you already have no control over your life&quot;, they say.

BTW, there&#039;s a whole discussion to be had about the larger effect on the economy when people lose control over consumption. Why work, invest and risk any more than the absolute minimum when you won&#039;t gain anything from it?  The resulting drop in production means there is less to ration and encourages both capital and labour to flee, further depressing the rations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For his wife or for himself, you&#8217;re asking? I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re getting at exactly.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a while since my economics classes too.  I remember that we talked about how the market &#8220;rations&#8221; scarce resources.</p>
<p>We &#8220;ration&#8221; our own resources by making trade-offs. For the sake of argument, let&#8217;s say there is no public assistance for the poor at all.  The man can take an extra job or work out a payment scheme with the doctor (I did that when I was poor and had no insurance) or receive charity or a combination.  The point is, he can choose his own level of consumption.  </p>
<p>If government rations resources, then this man and his wife will get exactly what government decides and no more.  All other avenues to receiving the health care he wants are cut off for him.  The government chooses his maximum level of consumption and he can do nothing about it.  Unless, of course, he happens to be politically connected, but the poor rarely are.</p>
<p>Obviously, the big difference is when you ration your own resources, you control your level of consumption.  When government rations, your level of consumption is dictated to you.  You have no control.</p>
<p>Statists love to conflate the two meanings of the word &#8220;ration&#8221; in order to create the illusion that it&#8217;s all the same thing.  &#8220;Trust us, you already have no control over your life&#8221;, they say.</p>
<p>BTW, there&#8217;s a whole discussion to be had about the larger effect on the economy when people lose control over consumption. Why work, invest and risk any more than the absolute minimum when you won&#8217;t gain anything from it?  The resulting drop in production means there is less to ration and encourages both capital and labour to flee, further depressing the rations.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those were  rethorical questions, methinks.  

The waiting list concerned is caused - in my opinion - by an artificial restriction on the number of medical specialists in this sector. 

Compared to the socialist nanny state (but without this particular restriction) where I was born  , she&#039;d have had that operation weeks ago.  







    
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those were  rethorical questions, methinks.  </p>
<p>The waiting list concerned is caused &#8211; in my opinion &#8211; by an artificial restriction on the number of medical specialists in this sector. </p>
<p>Compared to the socialist nanny state (but without this particular restriction) where I was born  , she&#8217;d have had that operation weeks ago.</p>
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		<title>By: dg lesvic</title>
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		<dc:creator>dg lesvic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you&#039;ve guaranteed me food, clothing, and housing, as well as medical care, let me know. I&#039;m retiring. And don&#039;t forget the beer and television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you&#8217;ve guaranteed me food, clothing, and housing, as well as medical care, let me know. I&#8217;m retiring. And don&#8217;t forget the beer and television.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice new look to the site. It&#039;s been a while since I&#039;ve had time to blog.

I&#039;m glad to hear of your opinion on tort reform. There is simply no reason for reform other than companies saving money.

If a company has a big problem with too many judgement going against it, then it should change whatever it is doing.

On the other hand, I think judges should be allowed to sentence lawyers who bring frivolous suits to jail when they lose. I don&#039;t think loser-pays can be fair because a corporation can often bring huge resources to bear at trial. That&#039;s the advantage they have regardless. If they can&#039;t win with huge resources, then they did something they shouldn&#039;t have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice new look to the site. It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve had time to blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear of your opinion on tort reform. There is simply no reason for reform other than companies saving money.</p>
<p>If a company has a big problem with too many judgement going against it, then it should change whatever it is doing.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I think judges should be allowed to sentence lawyers who bring frivolous suits to jail when they lose. I don&#8217;t think loser-pays can be fair because a corporation can often bring huge resources to bear at trial. That&#8217;s the advantage they have regardless. If they can&#8217;t win with huge resources, then they did something they shouldn&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes and obesity—are mostly preventable&quot;

So, what will most people die of when those things are prevented?  Laxative abuse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes and obesity—are mostly preventable&#8221;</p>
<p>So, what will most people die of when those things are prevented?  Laxative abuse?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Coman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Coman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please check this article from Canadian province of BC (of 4.4 million).
Over 6000 surgeries to be canceled:

http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1881155</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please check this article from Canadian province of BC (of 4.4 million).<br />
Over 6000 surgeries to be canceled:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1881155" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1881155</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;does not the decisions as to who lives and who dies is merely based on their ability to pay&quot;

Of the - decisions can for live ability can hoping dies is?  Society &#039;no contradition&#039; could have been career kidneys those criminals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;does not the decisions as to who lives and who dies is merely based on their ability to pay&#8221;</p>
<p>Of the &#8211; decisions can for live ability can hoping dies is?  Society &#8216;no contradition&#8217; could have been career kidneys those criminals?</p>
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		<title>By: schwabby</title>
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		<dc:creator>schwabby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mehinks
If a person is extremely poor and has to choose medical care for his wife of for himself, would you call that allocation or rationing? I took economics 20+ years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mehinks<br />
If a person is extremely poor and has to choose medical care for his wife of for himself, would you call that allocation or rationing? I took economics 20+ years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw come on Methinks - does not the decisions as to who lives and who dies is merely based on their ability to pay?  So the 60yo has the ability to pay but the 25yo doesn&#039;t.  Would it not be interesting if the 60yo is hoping the 25yo will die because he wants the younger person&#039;s kidneys?  Does not &#039;the ability to pay&#039; means those who make the greatest contributions to society will get the rations so there&#039;s no contradiction when a young person dies in favour of the old person?  (After all the 25yo could have been a career criminal.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw come on Methinks &#8211; does not the decisions as to who lives and who dies is merely based on their ability to pay?  So the 60yo has the ability to pay but the 25yo doesn&#8217;t.  Would it not be interesting if the 60yo is hoping the 25yo will die because he wants the younger person&#8217;s kidneys?  Does not &#8216;the ability to pay&#8217; means those who make the greatest contributions to society will get the rations so there&#8217;s no contradiction when a young person dies in favour of the old person?  (After all the 25yo could have been a career criminal.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the contract we have with our government&quot;

I&#039;m trying to think if I have any contracts with the government.  Maybe my driver&#039;s license?  I&#039;m not a government contractor.  I don&#039;t think so.  Government doesn&#039;t often need contracts.  They just tell people what to do, or else.

I&#039;ve read through the USC countless times, although I&#039;m no USC scholar.  I can&#039;t think of any obvious USC prohibition to loser pays.  

I do think it would result in judges and juries awarding even more unfair verdicts, just out of sympathy for the financial plight of one party versus another.

Still it is obviously the only fair thing to do--even if the amount the loser pays is just based upon some reasonably acceptable standard cost, and not the Johnny Cochran team costs.  A cost that would be a clear disincentive for frivolous cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the contract we have with our government&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to think if I have any contracts with the government.  Maybe my driver&#8217;s license?  I&#8217;m not a government contractor.  I don&#8217;t think so.  Government doesn&#8217;t often need contracts.  They just tell people what to do, or else.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read through the USC countless times, although I&#8217;m no USC scholar.  I can&#8217;t think of any obvious USC prohibition to loser pays.  </p>
<p>I do think it would result in judges and juries awarding even more unfair verdicts, just out of sympathy for the financial plight of one party versus another.</p>
<p>Still it is obviously the only fair thing to do&#8211;even if the amount the loser pays is just based upon some reasonably acceptable standard cost, and not the Johnny Cochran team costs.  A cost that would be a clear disincentive for frivolous cases.</p>
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