Comments on: Bono, Jefferson, and the American Idea http://cafehayek.com/2009/10/bono-jefferson-and-the-american-idea.html where orders emerge Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:06:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/10/bono-jefferson-and-the-american-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-187484 Anonymous Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:21:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6985#comment-187484 >>Oh - I didn't realize this was another conversation about the government. I thought it was just about obligation to our fellow man.<< I'm calling "Bullshit!" on this one. You're smart; you undoubtedly knew. To claim that you didn't has you come across as disengenuious, clueless, or some weird combination of both. >>Oh – I didn’t realize this was another conversation about the government. I thought it was just about obligation to our fellow man.<<

I'm calling "Bullshit!" on this one. You're smart; you undoubtedly knew. To claim that you didn't has you come across as disengenuious, clueless, or some weird combination of both.

]]> By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/10/bono-jefferson-and-the-american-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-187461 Anonymous Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:28:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6985#comment-187461 Daniel - could you define for us what are collective responsibilities the government is obligated to provide? Daniel – could you define for us what are collective responsibilities the government is obligated to provide?

]]> By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/10/bono-jefferson-and-the-american-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-187460 Anonymous Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:27:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6985#comment-187460 Another nutcase. Another nutcase.

]]> By: John Dewey http://cafehayek.com/2009/10/bono-jefferson-and-the-american-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-187459 John Dewey Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:25:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6985#comment-187459 <em>danielkuehn: "Don is saying that positions like "responsibility for your fellow man" necessitate giving power to politicians and collectivists."</em> I don't think that's what Don said at all. Don said that without freedom, the slogan "responsibility for your fellow man" implies goving power to politicians and collectivists. Your restatement of Don's position removes that very important qualification. danielkuehn: “Don is saying that positions like “responsibility for your fellow man” necessitate giving power to politicians and collectivists.”

I don’t think that’s what Don said at all. Don said that without freedom, the slogan “responsibility for your fellow man” implies goving power to politicians and collectivists. Your restatement of Don’s position removes that very important qualification.

]]> By: John Dewey http://cafehayek.com/2009/10/bono-jefferson-and-the-american-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-187451 John Dewey Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:58:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=6985#comment-187451 That's fine, daniel. My comments were addressed at your statement that: <em>"I didn't realize this was another conversation about the government."</em> That's exactly what Bono, Don Bourdreaux, and Arrowsmith were writing about. <em>danielkuehne: 'the guy that likes to talk about spontaneous order (and I agree with you on spontaneous order) is quoting a single dead president to challenge Bono on what the "American idea" is.</em> When you wrote this, I naturally assumed - and I suspect that arrowsmith also assumed - that you were writing about the collectivist action Bono advocated and about Don's response to Bono's call for collectivist action. That’s fine, daniel. My comments were addressed at your statement that:

“I didn’t realize this was another conversation about the government.”

That’s exactly what Bono, Don Bourdreaux, and Arrowsmith were writing about.

danielkuehne: ‘the guy that likes to talk about spontaneous order (and I agree with you on spontaneous order) is quoting a single dead president to challenge Bono on what the “American idea” is.

When you wrote this, I naturally assumed – and I suspect that arrowsmith also assumed – that you were writing about the collectivist action Bono advocated and about Don’s response to Bono’s call for collectivist action.

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