Comments on: A Final Thought on November 9th http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/a-final-thought-on-november-9th.html where orders emerge Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:06:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: John Jay Myers http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/a-final-thought-on-november-9th.html/comment-page-1#comment-190079 John Jay Myers Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:59:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7199#comment-190079 I was one of those guys who put an h20 (water for gas) converter in my Honda Mini Van. Factory equiped it would get from 18-23 mpg. After we put the converter in I got 30-38 mpg. I contacted the guy who sent me the plans to see about marketing it. He said he was not allowed, by the government to market it as a gas saving device. Now the question is... why? Another question, if I can put one of these gizmos into my vehicle and virtually double my gas mileage, why wouldn't the government (if they were so concerned... remember Obama saying we can get 2 more mpg by inflating our tires).... allow us to market this, or at least help in spreading the word. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but the reason is... that if they can't regulate it, and the powers that be can't meter it. It is not going to happen. For the same reason I can't get a permit to put an electric windmill on top of my house. I do believe in capitalism, more than anything, but if the government constantly dictates what we can and can not do... it is not true capitalism. It is corpratism. Here is a fun video on a new electric car with more torque than a corvette... But again, electric is fine, because it can be metered, hydrogen on demand though a possibility will never be allowed to rear it's head. http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/segments/view/1686 I was one of those guys who put an h20 (water for gas) converter in my Honda Mini Van. Factory equiped it would get from 18-23 mpg. After we put the converter in I got 30-38 mpg.
I contacted the guy who sent me the plans to see about marketing it. He said he was not allowed, by the government to market it as a gas saving device. Now the question is… why?
Another question, if I can put one of these gizmos into my vehicle and virtually double my gas mileage, why wouldn’t the government (if they were so concerned… remember Obama saying we can get 2 more mpg by inflating our tires)…. allow us to market this, or at least help in spreading the word.

I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but the reason is… that if they can’t regulate it, and the powers that be can’t meter it.
It is not going to happen. For the same reason I can’t get a permit to put an electric windmill on top of my house.

I do believe in capitalism, more than anything, but if the government constantly dictates what we can and can not do… it is not true capitalism.
It is corpratism.
Here is a fun video on a new electric car with more torque than a corvette…
But again, electric is fine, because it can be metered, hydrogen on demand though a possibility will never be allowed to rear it’s head.
http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/segments/view/1686

]]> By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/a-final-thought-on-november-9th.html/comment-page-1#comment-190016 Anonymous Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:48:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7199#comment-190016 Not a bad post, John. But, I'd argue that there is no cheaper way than oil to power personal transportation right now. I agree that corporatism is a problem (and Yasafi is a corporatist), but they're only going after government dollars because it's cheap to buy politicians and government regulators. I believe that the oil companies would love it if ethanol could be produced more cheaply (factoring <B>all</B> costs) than oil. If something comes along that can displace oil, the oil companies will still profit, because they have the delivery networks in place, and they won't have to deal with Islamo-fascists or other petty socialist asswipes. Not a bad post, John.

But, I’d argue that there is no cheaper way than oil to power personal transportation right now.

I agree that corporatism is a problem (and Yasafi is a corporatist), but they’re only going after government dollars because it’s cheap to buy politicians and government regulators.

I believe that the oil companies would love it if ethanol could be produced more cheaply (factoring all costs) than oil. If something comes along that can displace oil, the oil companies will still profit, because they have the delivery networks in place, and they won’t have to deal with Islamo-fascists or other petty socialist asswipes.

]]> By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/a-final-thought-on-november-9th.html/comment-page-1#comment-190015 Anonymous Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:30:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7199#comment-190015 <i>If it were up to you your own self, you'd have to walk or ride a horse everywhere.</i>Carl, I loved your post, but, just because it's another chance to belittle Yasafi, I have to point out that <i>someone</i> domesticated animals, and it sure wasn't a thumb-sucking little socialist. Had the ICE not been perfected, and brought to market, Yasafi would be bitching about the pollution caused from horseshit, and crying that there would be a better way to get around if only those eeeeeeevil Free Marketeers weren't so heavily invested in Big Alfalfa.Had someone not domesticated horses, Yasafi would be bitching that there must be some better way, other than shank's mare, to get around, and that there would be a better way if only those eeeeeeeevil Free Marketeers weren't so heavily invested in Big Shoe-Leather. If it were up to you your own self, you’d have to walk or ride a horse everywhere.Carl, I loved your post, but, just because it’s another chance to belittle Yasafi, I have to point out that someone domesticated animals, and it sure wasn’t a thumb-sucking little socialist. Had the ICE not been perfected, and brought to market, Yasafi would be bitching about the pollution caused from horseshit, and crying that there would be a better way to get around if only those eeeeeeevil Free Marketeers weren’t so heavily invested in Big Alfalfa.Had someone not domesticated horses, Yasafi would be bitching that there must be some better way, other than shank’s mare, to get around, and that there would be a better way if only those eeeeeeeevil Free Marketeers weren’t so heavily invested in Big Shoe-Leather.

]]> By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/a-final-thought-on-november-9th.html/comment-page-1#comment-190012 Anonymous Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:20:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7199#comment-190012 Way to dodge Carl's points. He asked you a question, and it was a serious, legitimate question: <I>What's stopping you from inventing the superior-to-ICE engine your little socialist heart so desires?</I> Carl didn't defend anyone in that post. He belittled you by pointing out that you're a lazy socialist (<B>redundancy alert!</B>) waiting for others to invent the products you desire. Way to dodge Carl’s points.

He asked you a question, and it was a serious, legitimate question: What’s stopping you from inventing the superior-to-ICE engine your little socialist heart so desires?

Carl didn’t defend anyone in that post. He belittled you by pointing out that you’re a lazy socialist (redundancy alert!) waiting for others to invent the products you desire.

]]> By: John Jay Myers http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/a-final-thought-on-november-9th.html/comment-page-1#comment-189995 John Jay Myers Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:09:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7199#comment-189995 Capitalism is not the problem, corpratism is the problem. If we take this car analogy... there are things that would make a car run more efficiently and cheaper than fossil fuels. But our government stands in the way on behalf of those who are willing to pay to keep us running on fossil fuels. Why do you think you see government sponsored commercials about energy? Or lobbiest trying to get you to help them to lobby for different types of energies. Energy is none of governments business. So..... those who think capitalism is bad are mistaken in my opinion, but those who think our current system is capitalism are also wrong. So the obvious solution? Get government out of the equation. Overall it sounds like some real smart puppies frequent this board, it was nice to read most of the comments. Capitalism is not the problem, corpratism is the problem.
If we take this car analogy… there are things that would make a car run more efficiently and cheaper than fossil fuels.
But our government stands in the way on behalf of those who are willing to pay to keep us running on fossil fuels.
Why do you think you see government sponsored commercials about energy? Or lobbiest trying to get you to help them to lobby for different types of energies.
Energy is none of governments business. So….. those who think capitalism is bad are mistaken in my opinion, but those who think our current system is capitalism are also wrong.
So the obvious solution? Get government out of the equation. Overall it sounds like some real smart puppies frequent this board, it was nice to read most of the comments.

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