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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/i-must-have-slept-through-the-just-concluded-era-of-laissez-faire.html/comment-page-1#comment-191173</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;let&#039;s look at ourselves for a moment. Muirgeo makes a post that contains definite assertions and makes definite arguments. These are things that can be responded to in a productive way that leaves us all more knowledgeable for participating in the discussion. However, that&#039;s not what you&#039;re doing. You&#039;re all engaging in the &#039;gang&#039; behavior that other political groups use to intimidate and drive out dissent. Are libertarians really going to be known as just another group looking for power? I&#039;ll step up to the plate on this one, since everybody else seems happy to just swing their bats at muir from the dugout.&quot;

Dude, get over yourself.  Who appointed you the den mother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;let&#8217;s look at ourselves for a moment. Muirgeo makes a post that contains definite assertions and makes definite arguments. These are things that can be responded to in a productive way that leaves us all more knowledgeable for participating in the discussion. However, that&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re doing. You&#8217;re all engaging in the &#8216;gang&#8217; behavior that other political groups use to intimidate and drive out dissent. Are libertarians really going to be known as just another group looking for power? I&#8217;ll step up to the plate on this one, since everybody else seems happy to just swing their bats at muir from the dugout.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude, get over yourself.  Who appointed you the den mother?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/i-must-have-slept-through-the-just-concluded-era-of-laissez-faire.html/comment-page-1#comment-191172</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;let&#039;s look at ourselves for a moment. Muirgeo makes a post that contains definite assertions and makes definite arguments. These are things that can be responded to in a productive way that leaves us all more knowledgeable for participating in the discussion. However, that&#039;s not what you&#039;re doing. You&#039;re all engaging in the &#039;gang&#039; behavior that other political groups use to intimidate and drive out dissent. Are libertarians really going to be known as just another group looking for power? I&#039;ll step up to the plate on this one, since everybody else seems happy to just swing their bats at muir from the dugout.&quot;

Dude, get over yourself.  Who appointed you the den mother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;let&#8217;s look at ourselves for a moment. Muirgeo makes a post that contains definite assertions and makes definite arguments. These are things that can be responded to in a productive way that leaves us all more knowledgeable for participating in the discussion. However, that&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re doing. You&#8217;re all engaging in the &#8216;gang&#8217; behavior that other political groups use to intimidate and drive out dissent. Are libertarians really going to be known as just another group looking for power? I&#8217;ll step up to the plate on this one, since everybody else seems happy to just swing their bats at muir from the dugout.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude, get over yourself.  Who appointed you the den mother?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, many other Western countries did have programs subsidizing housing in one way or another. Europe didn&#039;t collapse because the US government bailed out AIG. European banks are, right now, highly over-exposed to a lot of mortgage credit risk that&#039;s being kept from coming to roost by desperate actions of European and other governments.

And guys, let&#039;s look at ourselves for a moment. Muirgeo makes a post that contains definite assertions and makes definite arguments. These are things that can be responded to in a productive way that leaves us all more knowledgeable for participating in the discussion. However, that&#039;s not what you&#039;re doing. You&#039;re all engaging in the &#039;gang&#039; behavior that other political groups use to intimidate and drive out dissent. Are libertarians really going to be known as just another group looking for power? I&#039;ll step up to the plate on this one, since everybody else seems happy to just swing their bats at muir from the dugout.

&quot;On what basis! On what basis?&quot;

The basis of sound understanding of economics. Raising regulatory compliance costs, setting artificial limits on supply, manipulating relative prices in health care related industries, and a whole host of other policies that liberals and libertarians want to be rid of are almost all already part of an age old mythos of failed government policies. Price controls don&#039;t work. Supply constrictions just decrease availability and raise prices. Demand supports do the same thing.

Getting rid of the existing tax &#039;credit&#039; to group insurance policies would be an excellent return to private-payer health care, which I hope you&#039;ll understand is a good thing for price control. Just like we&#039;re not experiencing crisis level tire price inflation, the market, when left free to innovate and produce, is pretty good about providing us what we want within the limitations of factor availability. You see this in tires, as I mentioned, you see it in cars, in food, in everything. Capitalism works wonderfully for everything, why should we be expecting it to be different with health care?

Ending the AMA&#039;s strange-hold on medical licensing or, even more radically, getting rid of license requires to practice medicine would be an instant supply side stimulus to health capital availability. Yes, there&#039;d no doubt be some quacks who show up and do something very stupid that will probably result in many un-suspecting people experiencing suffering. But we&#039;ve already got a corrective mechanism for this! Medical malpractice insurance is one of the biggest fixed costs doctors face, and that would change simply because there were many more doctors. The number of malpractice law suits would go up in time with the number of quacks and charlatans.

These and other changes that liberals/libertarians propose are almost all aimed at arresting the rise in health care costs and even reversing it. The idea is that we don&#039;t need the government stepping in and helping the poor, we can do it ourselves (although I&#039;ve never heard of a sane libertarian proposing getting rid of Medicaid immediately). Lower the cost of health care, free people up to experiment with a million different forms of insurance (some corporate, some communal, etc), and health care will once more be abundantly available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, many other Western countries did have programs subsidizing housing in one way or another. Europe didn&#8217;t collapse because the US government bailed out AIG. European banks are, right now, highly over-exposed to a lot of mortgage credit risk that&#8217;s being kept from coming to roost by desperate actions of European and other governments.</p>
<p>And guys, let&#8217;s look at ourselves for a moment. Muirgeo makes a post that contains definite assertions and makes definite arguments. These are things that can be responded to in a productive way that leaves us all more knowledgeable for participating in the discussion. However, that&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re doing. You&#8217;re all engaging in the &#8216;gang&#8217; behavior that other political groups use to intimidate and drive out dissent. Are libertarians really going to be known as just another group looking for power? I&#8217;ll step up to the plate on this one, since everybody else seems happy to just swing their bats at muir from the dugout.</p>
<p>&#8220;On what basis! On what basis?&#8221;</p>
<p>The basis of sound understanding of economics. Raising regulatory compliance costs, setting artificial limits on supply, manipulating relative prices in health care related industries, and a whole host of other policies that liberals and libertarians want to be rid of are almost all already part of an age old mythos of failed government policies. Price controls don&#8217;t work. Supply constrictions just decrease availability and raise prices. Demand supports do the same thing.</p>
<p>Getting rid of the existing tax &#8216;credit&#8217; to group insurance policies would be an excellent return to private-payer health care, which I hope you&#8217;ll understand is a good thing for price control. Just like we&#8217;re not experiencing crisis level tire price inflation, the market, when left free to innovate and produce, is pretty good about providing us what we want within the limitations of factor availability. You see this in tires, as I mentioned, you see it in cars, in food, in everything. Capitalism works wonderfully for everything, why should we be expecting it to be different with health care?</p>
<p>Ending the AMA&#8217;s strange-hold on medical licensing or, even more radically, getting rid of license requires to practice medicine would be an instant supply side stimulus to health capital availability. Yes, there&#8217;d no doubt be some quacks who show up and do something very stupid that will probably result in many un-suspecting people experiencing suffering. But we&#8217;ve already got a corrective mechanism for this! Medical malpractice insurance is one of the biggest fixed costs doctors face, and that would change simply because there were many more doctors. The number of malpractice law suits would go up in time with the number of quacks and charlatans.</p>
<p>These and other changes that liberals/libertarians propose are almost all aimed at arresting the rise in health care costs and even reversing it. The idea is that we don&#8217;t need the government stepping in and helping the poor, we can do it ourselves (although I&#8217;ve never heard of a sane libertarian proposing getting rid of Medicaid immediately). Lower the cost of health care, free people up to experiment with a million different forms of insurance (some corporate, some communal, etc), and health care will once more be abundantly available.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, many other Western countries did have programs subsidizing housing in one way or another. Europe didn&#039;t collapse because the US government bailed out AIG. European banks are, right now, highly over-exposed to a lot of mortgage credit risk that&#039;s being kept from coming to roost by desperate actions of European and other governments.

And guys, let&#039;s look at ourselves for a moment. Muirgeo makes a post that contains definite assertions and makes definite arguments. These are things that can be responded to in a productive way that leaves us all more knowledgeable for participating in the discussion. However, that&#039;s not what you&#039;re doing. You&#039;re all engaging in the &#039;gang&#039; behavior that other political groups use to intimidate and drive out dissent. Are libertarians really going to be known as just another group looking for power? I&#039;ll step up to the plate on this one, since everybody else seems happy to just swing their bats at muir from the dugout.

&quot;On what basis! On what basis?&quot;

The basis of sound understanding of economics. Raising regulatory compliance costs, setting artificial limits on supply, manipulating relative prices in health care related industries, and a whole host of other policies that liberals and libertarians want to be rid of are almost all already part of an age old mythos of failed government policies. Price controls don&#039;t work. Supply constrictions just decrease availability and raise prices. Demand supports do the same thing.

Getting rid of the existing tax &#039;credit&#039; to group insurance policies would be an excellent return to private-payer health care, which I hope you&#039;ll understand is a good thing for price control. Just like we&#039;re not experiencing crisis level tire price inflation, the market, when left free to innovate and produce, is pretty good about providing us what we want within the limitations of factor availability. You see this in tires, as I mentioned, you see it in cars, in food, in everything. Capitalism works wonderfully for everything, why should we be expecting it to be different with health care?

Ending the AMA&#039;s strange-hold on medical licensing or, even more radically, getting rid of license requires to practice medicine would be an instant supply side stimulus to health capital availability. Yes, there&#039;d no doubt be some quacks who show up and do something very stupid that will probably result in many un-suspecting people experiencing suffering. But we&#039;ve already got a corrective mechanism for this! Medical malpractice insurance is one of the biggest fixed costs doctors face, and that would change simply because there were many more doctors. The number of malpractice law suits would go up in time with the number of quacks and charlatans.

These and other changes that liberals/libertarians propose are almost all aimed at arresting the rise in health care costs and even reversing it. The idea is that we don&#039;t need the government stepping in and helping the poor, we can do it ourselves (although I&#039;ve never heard of a sane libertarian proposing getting rid of Medicaid immediately). Lower the cost of health care, free people up to experiment with a million different forms of insurance (some corporate, some communal, etc), and health care will once more be abundantly available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, many other Western countries did have programs subsidizing housing in one way or another. Europe didn&#8217;t collapse because the US government bailed out AIG. European banks are, right now, highly over-exposed to a lot of mortgage credit risk that&#8217;s being kept from coming to roost by desperate actions of European and other governments.</p>
<p>And guys, let&#8217;s look at ourselves for a moment. Muirgeo makes a post that contains definite assertions and makes definite arguments. These are things that can be responded to in a productive way that leaves us all more knowledgeable for participating in the discussion. However, that&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re doing. You&#8217;re all engaging in the &#8216;gang&#8217; behavior that other political groups use to intimidate and drive out dissent. Are libertarians really going to be known as just another group looking for power? I&#8217;ll step up to the plate on this one, since everybody else seems happy to just swing their bats at muir from the dugout.</p>
<p>&#8220;On what basis! On what basis?&#8221;</p>
<p>The basis of sound understanding of economics. Raising regulatory compliance costs, setting artificial limits on supply, manipulating relative prices in health care related industries, and a whole host of other policies that liberals and libertarians want to be rid of are almost all already part of an age old mythos of failed government policies. Price controls don&#8217;t work. Supply constrictions just decrease availability and raise prices. Demand supports do the same thing.</p>
<p>Getting rid of the existing tax &#8216;credit&#8217; to group insurance policies would be an excellent return to private-payer health care, which I hope you&#8217;ll understand is a good thing for price control. Just like we&#8217;re not experiencing crisis level tire price inflation, the market, when left free to innovate and produce, is pretty good about providing us what we want within the limitations of factor availability. You see this in tires, as I mentioned, you see it in cars, in food, in everything. Capitalism works wonderfully for everything, why should we be expecting it to be different with health care?</p>
<p>Ending the AMA&#8217;s strange-hold on medical licensing or, even more radically, getting rid of license requires to practice medicine would be an instant supply side stimulus to health capital availability. Yes, there&#8217;d no doubt be some quacks who show up and do something very stupid that will probably result in many un-suspecting people experiencing suffering. But we&#8217;ve already got a corrective mechanism for this! Medical malpractice insurance is one of the biggest fixed costs doctors face, and that would change simply because there were many more doctors. The number of malpractice law suits would go up in time with the number of quacks and charlatans.</p>
<p>These and other changes that liberals/libertarians propose are almost all aimed at arresting the rise in health care costs and even reversing it. The idea is that we don&#8217;t need the government stepping in and helping the poor, we can do it ourselves (although I&#8217;ve never heard of a sane libertarian proposing getting rid of Medicaid immediately). Lower the cost of health care, free people up to experiment with a million different forms of insurance (some corporate, some communal, etc), and health care will once more be abundantly available.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, these &quot;facts&quot; don&#039;t help Mr Steinman&#039;s children....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, these &#8220;facts&#8221; don&#8217;t help Mr Steinman&#8217;s children&#8230;.</p>
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