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	<title>Comments on: Jobs saved and counterfactuals</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/jobs-saved-and-counterfactuals.html/comment-page-1#comment-190207</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;mm hmmm... says the person who used George Bush&#039;s warmongering as a reason to distrust thinking in terms of counterfactuals. &lt;/i&gt;

Yes, as we are all aware the Bush administration&#039;s positions were very sound.  

&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m not sure you have the tightest grasp on what makes a state dangerous, mommsen1625.&lt;/i&gt;

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

As for what makes the state dangerous, well, that ought to be obvious; human beings make the state dangerous.   Which is why the discretion that Democrats and Republicans like to give to the state so problematic.  But of course there is always the &quot;strong man&quot; impulse amongst Democrats and Republicans.    



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>mm hmmm&#8230; says the person who used George Bush&#8217;s warmongering as a reason to distrust thinking in terms of counterfactuals. </i></p>
<p>Yes, as we are all aware the Bush administration&#8217;s positions were very sound.  </p>
<p><i>I&#8217;m not sure you have the tightest grasp on what makes a state dangerous, mommsen1625.</i></p>
<p>Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.</p>
<p>As for what makes the state dangerous, well, that ought to be obvious; human beings make the state dangerous.   Which is why the discretion that Democrats and Republicans like to give to the state so problematic.  But of course there is always the &#8220;strong man&#8221; impulse amongst Democrats and Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The estimates for “jobs created or saved” are the ultimate example of “mark to model” fantasy land accounting. You know, the kind of give-me-a-break, clearly-too-rosy-and-self-serving calculation that was being used by banks to mask their real losses. As they say on the interweb… pot, meet kettle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The estimates for “jobs created or saved” are the ultimate example of “mark to model” fantasy land accounting. You know, the kind of give-me-a-break, clearly-too-rosy-and-self-serving calculation that was being used by banks to mask their real losses. As they say on the interweb… pot, meet kettle.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/jobs-saved-and-counterfactuals.html/comment-page-1#comment-190195</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Then you aren&#039;t terribly familiar with the history of the state.&quot;

mm hmmm... says the person who used George Bush&#039;s warmongering as a reason to distrust thinking in terms of counterfactuals.  I&#039;m not sure you have the tightest grasp on what makes a state dangerous, mommsen1625.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Then you aren&#8217;t terribly familiar with the history of the state.&#8221;</p>
<p>mm hmmm&#8230; says the person who used George Bush&#8217;s warmongering as a reason to distrust thinking in terms of counterfactuals.  I&#8217;m not sure you have the tightest grasp on what makes a state dangerous, mommsen1625.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/jobs-saved-and-counterfactuals.html/comment-page-1#comment-190169</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone explain why the &quot;created or saved&quot; (or destroyed) argument for something as complex as this is not pure &quot;witchcraft&quot; in a world without time machines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain why the &#8220;created or saved&#8221; (or destroyed) argument for something as complex as this is not pure &#8220;witchcraft&#8221; in a world without time machines?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ, you already lost by tacitly conceding that &quot;saving jobs&quot; is useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ, you already lost by tacitly conceding that &#8220;saving jobs&#8221; is useful.</p>
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