Comments on: Not science

By: Mike Laursen

Mike Laursen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:07:37 +0000

I've been trying to piece the truth together from various news sources, but I think that's about it.

By: Mike Laursen

Mike Laursen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:07:37 +0000

I've been trying to piece the truth together from various news sources, but I think that's about it.

By: sandre

sandre — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:19:34 +0000

Do 5 hail gores before you go to bed. He is the one!

By: Mike Laursen

Mike Laursen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:07:06 +0000

It's not as clear cut as danielkuehn makes it out to be. This is a pretty good article in the New York Times about the data:

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/mo...

The CRU claims that 95% of the raw data is available. But, as I point out above, and Roger Pielke points out in the article, raw data without knowledge of how to reproduce the processing that was done on the raw data is data loss.

Also, the NOAA data set is described in the article as an independent data set, but danielkuehn is claiming that the CRU data comes from NOAA. How independent are the data sets from CRU, NOAA, NASA, and JMA? This is where politicization of the issue sucks — I just asked a very straightforward factual question, but I see little talk about “just the facts” buried in all the ceaseless debating and character assassination flying around.

By: Mike Laursen

Mike Laursen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:47:35 +0000

According to ClimateAudit, the issue seems to not be availability of raw data, but a public record of “how the data were treated and manipulated, what assumptions were made in assembling the data sets, and what data was omitted and why.”

By: muirgeo

muirgeo — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:36:24 +0000

Yeah I'm just making up history as I go along.

By: brotio

brotio — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:21:32 +0000

Yes and I will defend every single mupidity.

Bwahahahahahaha!

He can't even spell "muir", and it's in his own handle!

By: juan carlos vera

juan carlos vera — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:37:07 +0000

These directors of the Climate Research Unit (CRU) remind me the kk Argentine government managers: they break the thermometer because they know the patient has an infection that does not know how to cure.

By: sandre

sandre — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:19:34 +0000

Do 5 hail gores before you go to bed. He is the one!

By: Mike Laursen

Mike Laursen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:07:06 +0000

It's not as clear cut as danielkuehn makes it out to be. This is a pretty good article in the New York Times about the data:

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/mo...

By: Mike Laursen

Mike Laursen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:47:35 +0000

By: muirgeo

muirgeo — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:36:24 +0000

Yeah I'm just making up history as I go along.

By: brotio

brotio — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:21:32 +0000

Yes and I will defend every single mupidity.

Bwahahahahahaha!

He can't even spell "muir", and it's in his own handle!

By: juan carlos vera

juan carlos vera — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:37:07 +0000

By: Barbarossa

Barbarossa — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:48:13 +0000

“Apparently something I said has caused a fellow blogger to snap and they have subsequently drooled and frothed all over the board.” Do you always refer to yourself in the third person? And I wouldn't say that something you said CAUSED drooling and frothing; I'd say that what you said WAS drooling and frothing.

By: Barbarossa

Barbarossa — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:45:33 +0000

And how does he go about hiring that one half? The government. It's called the tyrannizing majority of democracy.

By: mesaeconoguy

mesaeconoguy — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:17:58 +0000

The IPCC is an advocacy organization as well, and a non-scientific one to boot.

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Mark — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:20:51 +0000

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By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:19:57 +0000

Nice refutation of muirgroin.