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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The money creation switch at the Fed is, indeed, treading the economy like a sim video game.  Just enter the cheat code, get your money, and buy whatever you like.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Stepp</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/open-letter-to-ben-bernanke.html/comment-page-2#comment-72739</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Stepp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pingry,&lt;br&gt;Yes, some prices are more rigid than others.  Exhibit(s) A are union contracts.  Unions would not be able to have these contracts in a free market.  They exist only because the Wagner Act mandates compulsory collective bargaining.  Repeal it already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pingry,<br />Yes, some prices are more rigid than others.  Exhibit(s) A are union contracts.  Unions would not be able to have these contracts in a free market.  They exist only because the Wagner Act mandates compulsory collective bargaining.  Repeal it already.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Stepp</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/open-letter-to-ben-bernanke.html/comment-page-2#comment-72644</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Stepp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pingry,&lt;br&gt;Yes, some prices are more rigid than others.  Exhibit(s) A are union contracts.  Unions would not be able to have these contracts in a free market.  They exist only because the Wagner Act mandates compulsory collective bargaining.  Repeal it already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pingry,<br />Yes, some prices are more rigid than others.  Exhibit(s) A are union contracts.  Unions would not be able to have these contracts in a free market.  They exist only because the Wagner Act mandates compulsory collective bargaining.  Repeal it already.</p>
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		<title>By: tjslater</title>
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		<dc:creator>tjslater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, sir. Clear and with brevity.</description>
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		<title>By: tjslater</title>
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		<dc:creator>tjslater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, sir. Clear and with brevity.</description>
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		<title>By: Pingry</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/open-letter-to-ben-bernanke.html/comment-page-2#comment-72329</link>
		<dc:creator>Pingry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Taylor rule was not a good strategy back then.  Woodford was right**: That a central bank&#039;s overnight rate could be kept at a particular rate for a longer period as a substitute for further rate cuts. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This policy signaling would reduce the anxiety among economic and financial actors (that is, reduced variability in the overnight rate) when contractionary policy deems that nominal interest rates must rise at some point down the road, putting a business cycle expansion in jeopardy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s all about expectations management via policy signaling to help the private sector forecast the future path of policy and pierce the nominal veil. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Pingry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Taylor rule was not a good strategy back then.  Woodford was right**: That a central bank&#39;s overnight rate could be kept at a particular rate for a longer period as a substitute for further rate cuts. </p>
<p>This policy signaling would reduce the anxiety among economic and financial actors (that is, reduced variability in the overnight rate) when contractionary policy deems that nominal interest rates must rise at some point down the road, putting a business cycle expansion in jeopardy.</p>
<p>It&#39;s all about expectations management via policy signaling to help the private sector forecast the future path of policy and pierce the nominal veil. </p>
<p>&#8211;Pingry</p>
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		<title>By: Barbarossa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbarossa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is precisely why I attribute them to Keynes: because Keynesians believe he pioneered them all, so it simplifies discussion with Keynesians and facilitates refutation of their claims. You make a valid point, though, that we can&#039;t simply dismiss such a topic. What I really meant to say was macroeconomic tinkering is useless and harmful, and Keynes was perhaps the grandest and most famous advocate of such tinkering,  even if a lot of his ideas were not originally his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is precisely why I attribute them to Keynes: because Keynesians believe he pioneered them all, so it simplifies discussion with Keynesians and facilitates refutation of their claims. You make a valid point, though, that we can&#39;t simply dismiss such a topic. What I really meant to say was macroeconomic tinkering is useless and harmful, and Keynes was perhaps the grandest and most famous advocate of such tinkering,  even if a lot of his ideas were not originally his own.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbarossa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbarossa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The malinvestment is the inefficiency, not the liquidation; the liquidation is the market process of discontinuing and reversing the inefficiences, of increasing EFFICIENCY. And you have explained these unintended consequences? What are they? And even if there are &quot;unintended&quot; consequences, I doubt that they aren&#039;t foreseeable, and anyway, what if such consequences are absolutely necessary? What if the consequences are the only way for everyone to be better off long-term? Anyway, you&#039;re no longer inconsistent, per se; you&#039;re just being vague, lol. What unintended consequences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The malinvestment is the inefficiency, not the liquidation; the liquidation is the market process of discontinuing and reversing the inefficiences, of increasing EFFICIENCY. And you have explained these unintended consequences? What are they? And even if there are &#8220;unintended&#8221; consequences, I doubt that they aren&#39;t foreseeable, and anyway, what if such consequences are absolutely necessary? What if the consequences are the only way for everyone to be better off long-term? Anyway, you&#39;re no longer inconsistent, per se; you&#39;re just being vague, lol. What unintended consequences?</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks1776</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks1776</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor, thank you for taking the time to comment here and on the thread linking to your article.  I don&#039;t know about Pingry, but I certainly look forward to reading your papers.</description>
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		<title>By: George Selgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Selgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pingry:  No, I&#039;m not a utopian; so, yes, I believe there would probably be crises in a free-banking world.  I also believe that polciy could do no better than to stick to a free banking regime despite them.  This isn&#039;t being a fatalist:  to know the details of free banking theory is to understand the very considerable devices such a system offers for avoiding or containing crises.  I invite you to peruse my own articles for treatments of particular issues.  Concerning, for example, &quot;irrational exuberance,&quot; see my paper &quot;Bank lending &#039;manias&#039; in theory and history&quot;; for containing irrational runs see &quot;In defense of bank suspension.&quot;  You must understand that it isn&#039;t possible for me to replicate the detailed arguments for free banking--the work  of a quarter century and counting--in a blog comment or two, but I can assure you that your challenge is one I&#039;ve spent most of my career answering--along with Larry White, Kevin Dowd, and several other writers, none of them hacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pingry:  No, I&#39;m not a utopian; so, yes, I believe there would probably be crises in a free-banking world.  I also believe that polciy could do no better than to stick to a free banking regime despite them.  This isn&#39;t being a fatalist:  to know the details of free banking theory is to understand the very considerable devices such a system offers for avoiding or containing crises.  I invite you to peruse my own articles for treatments of particular issues.  Concerning, for example, &#8220;irrational exuberance,&#8221; see my paper &#8220;Bank lending &#39;manias&#39; in theory and history&#8221;; for containing irrational runs see &#8220;In defense of bank suspension.&#8221;  You must understand that it isn&#39;t possible for me to replicate the detailed arguments for free banking&#8211;the work  of a quarter century and counting&#8211;in a blog comment or two, but I can assure you that your challenge is one I&#39;ve spent most of my career answering&#8211;along with Larry White, Kevin Dowd, and several other writers, none of them hacks.</p>
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		<title>By: George Selgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Selgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  As a fed Governor Bernanke was the most vocal advocate of keeping the FFR at 1% (nominal) long after sound policy would have raised it.  Take a look at the 20003 FOMC transcripts for confirmation of this.</description>
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		<title>By: Pingry</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/open-letter-to-ben-bernanke.html/comment-page-2#comment-72250</link>
		<dc:creator>Pingry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I&#039;m not saying that I liked the bailout, and that it wasn&#039;t insanely wasteful, just that there were no viable alternatives in a short-run emergency.  Phill Swagel wrote about some of the practical and legal limitations at the time from his experience at Treasury.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the sorry state of these FI&#039;s, I do not believe that there is any current bankruptcy mechanism in place to deal with them in an orderly fashion to prevent such spillovers.  And the FDICA and the FDICIA of 1991 does not allow for an orderly failure of many FI&#039;s, like huge bank holding companies, insurance companies (Read, AIG....Epic Fail) and other parts of the nefarious shadaow banking system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I believe you&#039;re mentioning the failure to accommodate a productivity surge (The deflation in a growing economy argument).  Now, we have debated this issue of monetary policy in the past here at Cafe Hayek, and if I remember correctly, you were not too fond of my endorsement of an explicit form of inflation targeting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll skip the details because I&#039;m afraid that others here will misinterpret it, but it boils down to this:  To have an explicit nominal anchor in the form of an explicitly announced and credible inflation target is just fine to accommodate a growing economy because at low and invariable rates, people will be able to pierce the nominal veil.  To allow for a productivity-based deflation, I really think, would come as a surprise and lead to a short-run income redistribution while unhinging the central bank&#039;s proper nominal anchor. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you believe that the public can truly pierce the veil of a short-run productivity deflation?  I&#039;m skeptical....over time, they could probably learn to deal with it, but why not just stick to a solid monetary policy strategy of inflation targeting advocated by those like Bernanke, Gertler, Mishkin, Woodford, etc. ?  After all, as I have mentioned here before, I think I am closer to the truth in saying that wages and prices are pretty rigid in the short-run....and not as flexible as Austrians would have anyone believe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not doubting Calomiris&#039;s claim about the moral hazard argument...but banking and finance today is more sophisticated, when back in the first round of globalization, these institutions and markets were either non-existent, or unsophisticated.  Today, finance is far more sophisticated and globalized, and I think that financial crises of the future will be even more powerful, ceterus paribus, via financial innovation and the modern development (and globalized nature) of finance and financial markets, both of which were far less important in the first round of globalization which Calomiris contrasts to this round of globalization.  Indeed, as I have written here quite a few times, there is much to said about spontaneous disorder when financial innovation goes awry, and, again as I paraphrase Jean Tirole &quot;This is what happens in markets with asymmetric information&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, please correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but you write about targeting a level of nominal GDP, no?  The same argument which Scott Sumner makes?  Well, do you further believe that we ought to target nominal GDP futures?  I doubt that would work as a practical matter.  Again, I think it&#039;s easier to have an explicit inflation target.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I like Taylor and the Taylor rule, and I&#039;m all for more rules and less discretion.  Indeed, one of the nice things about an inflation targeting framework (Mishkin has written on this a lot) is that it allows for mostly rules, and only an occasional discretion, like, say, when we have a massive financial crisis and the Fed has to increase the money supply in a &quot;gargantuan&quot; amount to satisfy the public and prevent short-run interest rates from shooting up like a rocket, precisely when the economy is weak and FI&#039;s are fragile.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But let me just say that I think the Taylor rule was not a good strategy back then, and that Woodford was right; That a central bank&#039;s overnight rate could be kept at a particular rate for a longer period as a substitute for further rate cuts and the anxiety that would create among economic and financial actors when contractionary policy deems they must rise at some point down the road.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Pingry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I&#39;m not saying that I liked the bailout, and that it wasn&#39;t insanely wasteful, just that there were no viable alternatives in a short-run emergency.  Phill Swagel wrote about some of the practical and legal limitations at the time from his experience at Treasury.</p>
<p>As for the sorry state of these FI&#39;s, I do not believe that there is any current bankruptcy mechanism in place to deal with them in an orderly fashion to prevent such spillovers.  And the FDICA and the FDICIA of 1991 does not allow for an orderly failure of many FI&#39;s, like huge bank holding companies, insurance companies (Read, AIG&#8230;.Epic Fail) and other parts of the nefarious shadaow banking system.</p>
<p>Also, I believe you&#39;re mentioning the failure to accommodate a productivity surge (The deflation in a growing economy argument).  Now, we have debated this issue of monetary policy in the past here at Cafe Hayek, and if I remember correctly, you were not too fond of my endorsement of an explicit form of inflation targeting.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll skip the details because I&#39;m afraid that others here will misinterpret it, but it boils down to this:  To have an explicit nominal anchor in the form of an explicitly announced and credible inflation target is just fine to accommodate a growing economy because at low and invariable rates, people will be able to pierce the nominal veil.  To allow for a productivity-based deflation, I really think, would come as a surprise and lead to a short-run income redistribution while unhinging the central bank&#39;s proper nominal anchor. </p>
<p>Do you believe that the public can truly pierce the veil of a short-run productivity deflation?  I&#39;m skeptical&#8230;.over time, they could probably learn to deal with it, but why not just stick to a solid monetary policy strategy of inflation targeting advocated by those like Bernanke, Gertler, Mishkin, Woodford, etc. ?  After all, as I have mentioned here before, I think I am closer to the truth in saying that wages and prices are pretty rigid in the short-run&#8230;.and not as flexible as Austrians would have anyone believe.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not doubting Calomiris&#39;s claim about the moral hazard argument&#8230;but banking and finance today is more sophisticated, when back in the first round of globalization, these institutions and markets were either non-existent, or unsophisticated.  Today, finance is far more sophisticated and globalized, and I think that financial crises of the future will be even more powerful, ceterus paribus, via financial innovation and the modern development (and globalized nature) of finance and financial markets, both of which were far less important in the first round of globalization which Calomiris contrasts to this round of globalization.  Indeed, as I have written here quite a few times, there is much to said about spontaneous disorder when financial innovation goes awry, and, again as I paraphrase Jean Tirole &#8220;This is what happens in markets with asymmetric information&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, please correct me if I&#39;m wrong, but you write about targeting a level of nominal GDP, no?  The same argument which Scott Sumner makes?  Well, do you further believe that we ought to target nominal GDP futures?  I doubt that would work as a practical matter.  Again, I think it&#39;s easier to have an explicit inflation target.</p>
<p>And I like Taylor and the Taylor rule, and I&#39;m all for more rules and less discretion.  Indeed, one of the nice things about an inflation targeting framework (Mishkin has written on this a lot) is that it allows for mostly rules, and only an occasional discretion, like, say, when we have a massive financial crisis and the Fed has to increase the money supply in a &#8220;gargantuan&#8221; amount to satisfy the public and prevent short-run interest rates from shooting up like a rocket, precisely when the economy is weak and FI&#39;s are fragile.</p>
<p>But let me just say that I think the Taylor rule was not a good strategy back then, and that Woodford was right; That a central bank&#39;s overnight rate could be kept at a particular rate for a longer period as a substitute for further rate cuts and the anxiety that would create among economic and financial actors when contractionary policy deems they must rise at some point down the road.</p>
<p>&#8211;Pingry</p>
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		<title>By: Pingry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pingry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course stock prices are not rigid, but many prices set in the non-financial segment of the economy are very rigid, and that is the problem.....Austrians are just as wrong as the classical economists who assumed that wages and prices would adjust quickly....not so fast....wages and prices will adjust (although it&#039;s not everywhere and always a good idea to have unanticipated nominal price adjustments) but in the presence of these sluggish movements, employment will adjust first, with the unemployment rate going up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the new neoclassical synthesis is on point about this, while taking the best of Friedman&#039;s monetarism and rational expectations, and avoiding all this stuff about wages and prices quickly clearing markets int the aggregate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Pingry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course stock prices are not rigid, but many prices set in the non-financial segment of the economy are very rigid, and that is the problem&#8230;..Austrians are just as wrong as the classical economists who assumed that wages and prices would adjust quickly&#8230;.not so fast&#8230;.wages and prices will adjust (although it&#39;s not everywhere and always a good idea to have unanticipated nominal price adjustments) but in the presence of these sluggish movements, employment will adjust first, with the unemployment rate going up.</p>
<p>I think the new neoclassical synthesis is on point about this, while taking the best of Friedman&#39;s monetarism and rational expectations, and avoiding all this stuff about wages and prices quickly clearing markets int the aggregate.</p>
<p>&#8211;Pingry</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks1776</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks1776</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank GOD Danny was there to defend weak little ole&#039; Don. Why, without Danny jumping to his defense, Don may have lost credibility forever.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Don,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Take it easy on BB. He had the unluck to &#039;be in the ring&#039;. Mopping up the liquidity, ever so gradually,  will not be such a difficult thing once recovery is on more stable grounds. Al/FOMC aggressiveness screwed it up in the earlier cycle. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, why not try 1/8% moves, however symbolic,  rather than being a slave to 1/4 %?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Don,</p>
<p>Take it easy on BB. He had the unluck to &#39;be in the ring&#39;. Mopping up the liquidity, ever so gradually,  will not be such a difficult thing once recovery is on more stable grounds. Al/FOMC aggressiveness screwed it up in the earlier cycle. </p>
<p>BTW, why not try 1/8% moves, however symbolic,  rather than being a slave to 1/4 %?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back on the road and working my way through Keynes&#039; &quot;General Theory of Employment&quot;.  I got to the part where he states that each of his main factors is worthy of study in its own right when it occurred to me that, he&#039;s designing a computer game.  That&#039;s exactly how sim-world games are designed, by choosing a few major variables and programming cause and effect relations around them that allow the player to get a thrill by entering key sequences.  The problem, of course, is that the real world isn&#039;t a game, and that Keynes&#039; has given politicians an excuse to act as if it is... and Bernanke is no exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back on the road and working my way through Keynes&#39; &#8220;General Theory of Employment&#8221;.  I got to the part where he states that each of his main factors is worthy of study in its own right when it occurred to me that, he&#39;s designing a computer game.  That&#39;s exactly how sim-world games are designed, by choosing a few major variables and programming cause and effect relations around them that allow the player to get a thrill by entering key sequences.  The problem, of course, is that the real world isn&#39;t a game, and that Keynes&#39; has given politicians an excuse to act as if it is&#8230; and Bernanke is no exception.</p>
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		<title>By: George Selgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Selgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Barbarosa, saying that &quot;macro is bunk&quot; begs the question: should economists simply not try to answer questions about cycles, unemployment, financial crises, or mass unemployment?  If the topics deserve to be better understood, then attempts to understand them can&#039;t simply be dismissed.  And by the way, only Keynesians believe that Keynes pioneered the investigation of these topics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Barbarosa, saying that &#8220;macro is bunk&#8221; begs the question: should economists simply not try to answer questions about cycles, unemployment, financial crises, or mass unemployment?  If the topics deserve to be better understood, then attempts to understand them can&#39;t simply be dismissed.  And by the way, only Keynesians believe that Keynes pioneered the investigation of these topics.</p>
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		<title>By: Pingry</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/open-letter-to-ben-bernanke.html/comment-page-2#comment-72232</link>
		<dc:creator>Pingry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I&#039;m not saying that I liked the bailout, and that it wasn&#039;t insanely wasteful, just that there were no viable alternatives in a short-run emergency.  Phill Swagel wrote about some of the practical and legal limitations at the time from his experience at Treasury.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the sorry state of these FI&#039;s, I do not believe that there is any current bankruptcy mechanism in place to deal with them in an orderly fashion to prevent such spillovers.  And the FDICA and the FDICIA of 1991 does not allow for an orderly failure of many FI&#039;s, like huge bank holding companies, insurance companies (Read, AIG....Epic Fail) and other parts of the nefarious shadaow banking system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I believe you&#039;re mentioning the failure to accommodate a productivity surge (The deflation in a growing economy argument).  Now, we have debated this issue of monetary policy in the past here at Cafe Hayek, and if I remember correctly, you were not too fond of my endorsement of an explicit form of inflation targeting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll skip the details because I&#039;m afraid that others here will misinterpret it, but it boils down to this:  To have an explicit nominal anchor in the form of an explicitly announced and credible inflation target is just fine to accommodate a growing economy because at low and invariable rates, people will be able to pierce the nominal veil.  To allow for a productivity-based deflation, I really think, would come as a surprise and lead to a short-run income redistribution while unhinging the central bank&#039;s proper nominal anchor. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you believe that the public can truly pierce the veil of a short-run productivity deflation?  I&#039;m skeptical....over time, they could probably learn to deal with it, but why not just stick to a solid monetary policy strategy of inflation targeting advocated by those like Bernanke, Gertler, Mishkin, Woodford, etc. ?  After all, as I have mentioned here before, I think I am closer to the truth in saying that wages and prices are pretty rigid in the short-run....and not as flexible as Austrians would have anyone believe.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not doubting Calomiris&#039;s claim about the moral hazard argument...but banking and finance today is more sophisticated, when back in the first round of globalization, these institutions and markets were either non-existent, or unsophisticated.  Today, finance is far more sophisticated and globalized, and I think that financial crises of the future will be even more powerful, ceterus paribus, via financial innovation and the modern development (and globalized nature) of finance and financial markets, both of which were far less important in the first round of globalization which Calomiris contrasts to this round of globalization.  Indeed, as I have written here quite a few times, there is much to said about spontaneous disorder when financial innovation goes awry, and, again as I paraphrase Jean Tirole &quot;This is what happens in markets with asymmetric information&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, please correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but you write about targeting a level of nominal GDP, no?  The same argument which Scott Sumner makes?  Well, do you further believe that we ought to target nominal GDP futures?  I doubt that would work as a practical matter.  Again, I think it&#039;s easier to have an explicit inflation target.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I like Taylor and the Taylor rule, and I&#039;m all for more rules and less discretion.  Indeed, one of the nice things about an inflation targeting framework (Mishkin has written on this a lot) is that it allows for mostly rules, and only an occasional discretion, like, say, when we have a massive financial crisis and the Fed has to increase the money supply in a &quot;gargantuan&quot; amount to satisfy the public and prevent short-run interest rates from shooting up like a rocket, precisely when the economy is weak and FI&#039;s are fragile.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But let me just say that I think the Taylor rule was not a good strategy back then, and that Woodford was right; That a central bank&#039;s overnight rate could be kept at a particular rate for a longer period as a substitute for further rate cuts and the anxiety that would create among economic and financial actors when contractionary policy deems they must rise at some point down the road.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Pingry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I&#39;m not saying that I liked the bailout, and that it wasn&#39;t insanely wasteful, just that there were no viable alternatives in a short-run emergency.  Phill Swagel wrote about some of the practical and legal limitations at the time from his experience at Treasury.</p>
<p>As for the sorry state of these FI&#39;s, I do not believe that there is any current bankruptcy mechanism in place to deal with them in an orderly fashion to prevent such spillovers.  And the FDICA and the FDICIA of 1991 does not allow for an orderly failure of many FI&#39;s, like huge bank holding companies, insurance companies (Read, AIG&#8230;.Epic Fail) and other parts of the nefarious shadaow banking system.</p>
<p>Also, I believe you&#39;re mentioning the failure to accommodate a productivity surge (The deflation in a growing economy argument).  Now, we have debated this issue of monetary policy in the past here at Cafe Hayek, and if I remember correctly, you were not too fond of my endorsement of an explicit form of inflation targeting.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll skip the details because I&#39;m afraid that others here will misinterpret it, but it boils down to this:  To have an explicit nominal anchor in the form of an explicitly announced and credible inflation target is just fine to accommodate a growing economy because at low and invariable rates, people will be able to pierce the nominal veil.  To allow for a productivity-based deflation, I really think, would come as a surprise and lead to a short-run income redistribution while unhinging the central bank&#39;s proper nominal anchor. </p>
<p>Do you believe that the public can truly pierce the veil of a short-run productivity deflation?  I&#39;m skeptical&#8230;.over time, they could probably learn to deal with it, but why not just stick to a solid monetary policy strategy of inflation targeting advocated by those like Bernanke, Gertler, Mishkin, Woodford, etc. ?  After all, as I have mentioned here before, I think I am closer to the truth in saying that wages and prices are pretty rigid in the short-run&#8230;.and not as flexible as Austrians would have anyone believe.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not doubting Calomiris&#39;s claim about the moral hazard argument&#8230;but banking and finance today is more sophisticated, when back in the first round of globalization, these institutions and markets were either non-existent, or unsophisticated.  Today, finance is far more sophisticated and globalized, and I think that financial crises of the future will be even more powerful, ceterus paribus, via financial innovation and the modern development (and globalized nature) of finance and financial markets, both of which were far less important in the first round of globalization which Calomiris contrasts to this round of globalization.  Indeed, as I have written here quite a few times, there is much to said about spontaneous disorder when financial innovation goes awry, and, again as I paraphrase Jean Tirole &#8220;This is what happens in markets with asymmetric information&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, please correct me if I&#39;m wrong, but you write about targeting a level of nominal GDP, no?  The same argument which Scott Sumner makes?  Well, do you further believe that we ought to target nominal GDP futures?  I doubt that would work as a practical matter.  Again, I think it&#39;s easier to have an explicit inflation target.</p>
<p>And I like Taylor and the Taylor rule, and I&#39;m all for more rules and less discretion.  Indeed, one of the nice things about an inflation targeting framework (Mishkin has written on this a lot) is that it allows for mostly rules, and only an occasional discretion, like, say, when we have a massive financial crisis and the Fed has to increase the money supply in a &#8220;gargantuan&#8221; amount to satisfy the public and prevent short-run interest rates from shooting up like a rocket, precisely when the economy is weak and FI&#39;s are fragile.</p>
<p>But let me just say that I think the Taylor rule was not a good strategy back then, and that Woodford was right; That a central bank&#39;s overnight rate could be kept at a particular rate for a longer period as a substitute for further rate cuts and the anxiety that would create among economic and financial actors when contractionary policy deems they must rise at some point down the road.</p>
<p>&#8211;Pingry</p>
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		<title>By: Pingry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pingry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course stock prices are not rigid, but many prices set in the non-financial segment of the economy are very rigid, and that is the problem.....Austrians are just as wrong as the classical economists who assumed that wages and prices would adjust quickly....not so fast....wages and prices will adjust (although it&#039;s not everywhere and always a good idea to have unanticipated nominal price adjustments) but in the presence of these sluggish movements, employment will adjust first, with the unemployment rate going up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the new neoclassical synthesis is on point about this, while taking the best of Friedman&#039;s monetarism and rational expectations, and avoiding all this stuff about wages and prices quickly clearing markets int the aggregate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Pingry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course stock prices are not rigid, but many prices set in the non-financial segment of the economy are very rigid, and that is the problem&#8230;..Austrians are just as wrong as the classical economists who assumed that wages and prices would adjust quickly&#8230;.not so fast&#8230;.wages and prices will adjust (although it&#39;s not everywhere and always a good idea to have unanticipated nominal price adjustments) but in the presence of these sluggish movements, employment will adjust first, with the unemployment rate going up.</p>
<p>I think the new neoclassical synthesis is on point about this, while taking the best of Friedman&#39;s monetarism and rational expectations, and avoiding all this stuff about wages and prices quickly clearing markets int the aggregate.</p>
<p>&#8211;Pingry</p>
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		<title>By: Methinks1776</title>
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		<dc:creator>Methinks1776</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank GOD Danny was there to defend weak little ole&#039; Don. Why, without Danny jumping to his defense, Don may have lost credibility forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank GOD Danny was there to defend weak little ole&#39; Don. Why, without Danny jumping to his defense, Don may have lost credibility forever.</p>
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