Comments on: So You Want European-Style Health Care? http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/so-you-want-european-style-health-care.html where orders emerge Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:06:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/so-you-want-european-style-health-care.html/comment-page-1#comment-189338 Anonymous Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:21:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7144#comment-189338 Don't you mean New Hampshire? Don’t you mean New Hampshire?

]]> By: Anonymous http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/so-you-want-european-style-health-care.html/comment-page-1#comment-189337 Anonymous Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:14:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7144#comment-189337 So true! I especially love the line saying that nobody ever asks for a bill to pass that would restrict thyself from doing something. Brilliant. So true! I especially love the line saying that nobody ever asks for a bill to pass that would restrict thyself from doing something. Brilliant.

]]> By: Rollie http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/so-you-want-european-style-health-care.html/comment-page-1#comment-189074 Rollie Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:16:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7144#comment-189074 Why is it that when collectivism is adopted in an attempt to "fix" something, it makes things worse, and more collectivism is proposed to fix the consequences of the initial failure of that collectivism? Something must exist in reality before it can possibly spread. Once that something exists in the market, competition leads to innovation, which causes production costs to fall (outside of monetary inflation). If costs fall enough, that good or service can be accessed by anyone. If production costs are high at a particular point in time, this does not mean they will remain high indefinitely. How does a planner determine if the cost of something is ideal today rather than yesterday, or if it "must" be arbitrarily "controlled"? If a good or service can be supplied cost-effectively at a price that meets consumer wants and needs, it would already be doing this in the market. European health care "works" in some countries despite government, not because of it. Government intervention can only distort the market. As a result of such distortions, consumers act in ways that do not reflect reality, thus creating additional problems/costs which are typically addressed in the form of more intervention/collectivism. And repeat... Why is it that when collectivism is adopted in an attempt to “fix” something, it makes things worse, and more collectivism is proposed to fix the consequences of the initial failure of that collectivism?

Something must exist in reality before it can possibly spread. Once that something exists in the market, competition leads to innovation, which causes production costs to fall (outside of monetary inflation). If costs fall enough, that good or service can be accessed by anyone.

If production costs are high at a particular point in time, this does not mean they will remain high indefinitely. How does a planner determine if the cost of something is ideal today rather than yesterday, or if it “must” be arbitrarily “controlled”? If a good or service can be supplied cost-effectively at a price that meets consumer wants and needs, it would already be doing this in the market.

European health care “works” in some countries despite government, not because of it. Government intervention can only distort the market. As a result of such distortions, consumers act in ways that do not reflect reality, thus creating additional problems/costs which are typically addressed in the form of more intervention/collectivism. And repeat…

]]> By: Rollie http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/so-you-want-european-style-health-care.html/comment-page-1#comment-189073 Rollie Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:16:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7144#comment-189073 Why is it that when collectivism is adopted in an attempt to "fix" something, it makes things worse, and more collectivism is proposed to fix the consequences of the initial failure of that collectivism? Something must exist in reality before it can possibly spread. Once that something exists in the market, competition leads to innovation, which causes production costs to fall (outside of monetary inflation). If costs fall enough, that good or service can be accessed by anyone. If production costs are high at a particular point in time, this does not mean they will remain high indefinitely. How does a planner determine if the cost of something is ideal today rather than yesterday, or if it "must" be arbitrarily "controlled"? If a good or service can be supplied cost-effectively at a price that meets consumer wants and needs, it would already be doing this in the market. European health care "works" in some countries despite government, not because of it. Government intervention can only distort the market. As a result of such distortions, consumers act in ways that do not reflect reality, thus creating additional problems/costs which are typically addressed in the form of more intervention/collectivism. And repeat... Why is it that when collectivism is adopted in an attempt to “fix” something, it makes things worse, and more collectivism is proposed to fix the consequences of the initial failure of that collectivism?

Something must exist in reality before it can possibly spread. Once that something exists in the market, competition leads to innovation, which causes production costs to fall (outside of monetary inflation). If costs fall enough, that good or service can be accessed by anyone.

If production costs are high at a particular point in time, this does not mean they will remain high indefinitely. How does a planner determine if the cost of something is ideal today rather than yesterday, or if it “must” be arbitrarily “controlled”? If a good or service can be supplied cost-effectively at a price that meets consumer wants and needs, it would already be doing this in the market.

European health care “works” in some countries despite government, not because of it. Government intervention can only distort the market. As a result of such distortions, consumers act in ways that do not reflect reality, thus creating additional problems/costs which are typically addressed in the form of more intervention/collectivism. And repeat…

]]> By: fullyinsuredguy14 http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/so-you-want-european-style-health-care.html/comment-page-1#comment-189070 fullyinsuredguy14 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:19:00 +0000 http://cafehayek.com/?p=7144#comment-189070 Sure it may be six months before they get to see a doctor.. but at least they get seen! And what about all those who get SO SICK they are finally wheeled into the hospital emergency room without insurance.. and we all end up paying for a much bigger bill in the end? And what about all the WORKING people in this country who are self-employed, temporarily employed or part time employed who can't see a doctor? And what about all those who are walking around sick coughing on the salad bars and produce sections of supermarkets because they can't afford to see a doctor... and they end up infecting so many more of the healthy ones? This all puts a huge bill on the economy.. which other countries realize... but America can't quite understand. THINK America!! Sure it may be six months before they get to see a doctor.. but at least they get seen! And what about all those who get SO SICK they are finally wheeled into the hospital emergency room without insurance.. and we all end up paying for a much bigger bill in the end? And what about all the WORKING people in this country who are self-employed, temporarily employed or part time employed who can’t see a doctor? And what about all those who are walking around sick coughing on the salad bars and produce sections of supermarkets because they can’t afford to see a doctor… and they end up infecting so many more of the healthy ones? This all puts a huge bill on the economy.. which other countries realize… but America can’t quite understand. THINK America!!

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