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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/sumner-on-monetary-policy.html/comment-page-1#comment-190055</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, there&#039;s no point in denying it.  I didn&#039;t say anything else because Mommsen1625 and I already had a conversation about this issue in the Keynes and Mises post.  People can go there if they&#039;re interested.  Mark might be disappointed, though - there are no smarmy comebacks there either.

There&#039;s no need to idealize the people we admire.  Jefferson was a slave-owner, but I still place great value on his life and ideas.  It&#039;s not an apology for the slave-holding at all - it&#039;s just that I&#039;m not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater and I&#039;m also not going to pretend the slave-holding didn&#039;t happen.  Mises said that fascism would have an eternal place in history for saving European civilization.  It is what it is - he made a mistake, but people don&#039;t just throw him out for it.  He was focused on the threat of Communism and was therefore a little too casual about the threat of fascism.  And Keynes has his eugenics.  History is nasty sometimes, but it is what it is.  And it&#039;s also important to note - despite Mises&#039;s dumb statements initially, he clearly wasn&#039;t a fascist himself.  Keynes, in the same way, wasn&#039;t on some fascist mission of racial purity.  He just got interested in a very despicable movement that seemed (at the time) to have good motives.  It&#039;s not admirable, but what am I supposed to do?  Throw out all the Jefferson, Mises, and Keynes?  That isn&#039;t an option for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, there&#8217;s no point in denying it.  I didn&#8217;t say anything else because Mommsen1625 and I already had a conversation about this issue in the Keynes and Mises post.  People can go there if they&#8217;re interested.  Mark might be disappointed, though &#8211; there are no smarmy comebacks there either.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no need to idealize the people we admire.  Jefferson was a slave-owner, but I still place great value on his life and ideas.  It&#8217;s not an apology for the slave-holding at all &#8211; it&#8217;s just that I&#8217;m not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater and I&#8217;m also not going to pretend the slave-holding didn&#8217;t happen.  Mises said that fascism would have an eternal place in history for saving European civilization.  It is what it is &#8211; he made a mistake, but people don&#8217;t just throw him out for it.  He was focused on the threat of Communism and was therefore a little too casual about the threat of fascism.  And Keynes has his eugenics.  History is nasty sometimes, but it is what it is.  And it&#8217;s also important to note &#8211; despite Mises&#8217;s dumb statements initially, he clearly wasn&#8217;t a fascist himself.  Keynes, in the same way, wasn&#8217;t on some fascist mission of racial purity.  He just got interested in a very despicable movement that seemed (at the time) to have good motives.  It&#8217;s not admirable, but what am I supposed to do?  Throw out all the Jefferson, Mises, and Keynes?  That isn&#8217;t an option for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/sumner-on-monetary-policy.html/comment-page-1#comment-190052</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What he usually does is deny that he said what you said he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What he usually does is deny that he said what you said he said.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin P</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/sumner-on-monetary-policy.html/comment-page-1#comment-190050</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can he, it&#039;s true. In 1946, Keynes declared eugenics “the most important, significant and, I would add, genuine branch of sociology which exists.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can he, it&#8217;s true. In 1946, Keynes declared eugenics “the most important, significant and, I would add, genuine branch of sociology which exists.”</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are free to label themselves whatever they want but there&#039;s nothing Keynesian about deficit spending to boost employment when interest rates are high and inflation is high.  It would be how I imagine many of you would react to Greenspan saying &quot;I&#039;m a libertarian&quot;.  He can label himself whatever he wants, but if we just concern ourselves with what people call themselves we&#039;re not going to get very far.

I would never do libertarians the disservice of pretending that Greenspan is of their ranks.  There doesn&#039;t seem to be any point to making that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are free to label themselves whatever they want but there&#8217;s nothing Keynesian about deficit spending to boost employment when interest rates are high and inflation is high.  It would be how I imagine many of you would react to Greenspan saying &#8220;I&#8217;m a libertarian&#8221;.  He can label himself whatever he wants, but if we just concern ourselves with what people call themselves we&#8217;re not going to get very far.</p>
<p>I would never do libertarians the disservice of pretending that Greenspan is of their ranks.  There doesn&#8217;t seem to be any point to making that case.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/sumner-on-monetary-policy.html/comment-page-1#comment-189959</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh, no smarmy comeback from Daniel.  Wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, no smarmy comeback from Daniel.  Wow!</p>
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