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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190873</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m extremely impressed that you recognized that obscure quote!  Correct you are on the Keynesian Multiplier. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m extremely impressed that you recognized that obscure quote!  Correct you are on the Keynesian Multiplier.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190843</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subjective valuation (enjoyability) is at the heart of economics.  And you should know - when you call people &quot;retard&quot; you sound like a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subjective valuation (enjoyability) is at the heart of economics.  And you should know &#8211; when you call people &#8220;retard&#8221; you sound like a child.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190812</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe you are reading JD correctly.

You!  As usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe you are reading JD correctly.</p>
<p>You!  As usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190796</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The market is flooded. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The market is flooded.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveO</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190795</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190789</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s pretty clear by now that Kuehn is a troll who doesn&#039;t really listen to anyone and should be banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty clear by now that Kuehn is a troll who doesn&#8217;t really listen to anyone and should be banned.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190788</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual kuehn&#039;s infantile way of looking at economic matters. Enjoyability has nothing to do with it retard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual kuehn&#8217;s infantile way of looking at economic matters. Enjoyability has nothing to do with it retard!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190781</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I waited through that whole damn movie to see the alien and it was her father! :(

And it&#039;s not twice the price - it&#039;s something more like 2.8x the price. I think that&#039;s called the &quot;Keynesian multiplier.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I waited through that whole damn movie to see the alien and it was her father! <img src='http://cafehayek.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not twice the price &#8211; it&#8217;s something more like 2.8x the price. I think that&#8217;s called the &#8220;Keynesian multiplier.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190776</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And regarding: &quot;I was just trying to guage whether the opposition to Krugman was just over the government intervention or wether there were other concerns&quot; - you DON&#039;T need to reiterate your other concerns once again.  I read them the first time, I know they exist, and it&#039;s not the first I&#039;ve heard of HR/overhead type points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And regarding: &#8220;I was just trying to guage whether the opposition to Krugman was just over the government intervention or wether there were other concerns&#8221; &#8211; you DON&#8217;T need to reiterate your other concerns once again.  I read them the first time, I know they exist, and it&#8217;s not the first I&#8217;ve heard of HR/overhead type points.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh give me a break, johndewey.  I never changed or rephrased anything.  I&#039;m allowed to wonder a couple things: &quot;why would someone a priori oppose this?&quot;, &quot;under what conditions would it make sense?&quot;, etc.

I read and enjoyed all your thoughts on it - you&#039;re just bent out of shape that I still disagree with you on the issue of training expenses.  You keep defending your experience.  Well john, I&#039;ve never belittled your experience the way you&#039;ve belittled mine several times at this point.  So please - spare me the sob story about how crafty I am with reinventing arguments and refusing to give due deference.

If you want to argue against Krugman&#039;s point, that&#039;s fine.  Krugman may have implied the need for widespread job sharing.  I never did.  I was just trying to gauge whether the disagreement with Krugman was purely over the government intervention, or whether there were other concerns about job sharing too.  I never made any claim that this shoudl be widespread practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh give me a break, johndewey.  I never changed or rephrased anything.  I&#8217;m allowed to wonder a couple things: &#8220;why would someone a priori oppose this?&#8221;, &#8220;under what conditions would it make sense?&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>I read and enjoyed all your thoughts on it &#8211; you&#8217;re just bent out of shape that I still disagree with you on the issue of training expenses.  You keep defending your experience.  Well john, I&#8217;ve never belittled your experience the way you&#8217;ve belittled mine several times at this point.  So please &#8211; spare me the sob story about how crafty I am with reinventing arguments and refusing to give due deference.</p>
<p>If you want to argue against Krugman&#8217;s point, that&#8217;s fine.  Krugman may have implied the need for widespread job sharing.  I never did.  I was just trying to gauge whether the disagreement with Krugman was purely over the government intervention, or whether there were other concerns about job sharing too.  I never made any claim that this shoudl be widespread practice.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dewey</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190767</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daniel, you started this &quot;exchange&quot; by asking:

&quot;Could someone explain to me exactly what the argument against job sharing is?&quot;

I provided several reasons why most firms reject job sharing, both during normal times and during recessions.  I explained exactly why job sharing is expensive, which, as a corporate controller and labor planner, I am expertly qualified to explain.  Rather than learn from this &quot;exchange&quot; with someone who has decades of real-world business experience, you tried to invent a new argument.  As you so often do, you have rephrased your question:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Under what conditions is job sharing economically justified?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I never claimed that job sharing is always the wrong policy.  But given that this blog is about Paul Krugman&#039;s advocacy of widespread job-sharing, I think it makes sense to point out such action would be foolish for most companies. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daniel, you started this &#8220;exchange&#8221; by asking:</p>
<p>&#8220;Could someone explain to me exactly what the argument against job sharing is?&#8221;</p>
<p>I provided several reasons why most firms reject job sharing, both during normal times and during recessions.  I explained exactly why job sharing is expensive, which, as a corporate controller and labor planner, I am expertly qualified to explain.  Rather than learn from this &#8220;exchange&#8221; with someone who has decades of real-world business experience, you tried to invent a new argument.  As you so often do, you have rephrased your question:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Under what conditions is job sharing economically justified?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I never claimed that job sharing is always the wrong policy.  But given that this blog is about Paul Krugman&#8217;s advocacy of widespread job-sharing, I think it makes sense to point out such action would be foolish for most companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190754</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my word&#039;s but a whisper, your deafness a shout...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my word&#8217;s but a whisper, your deafness a shout&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally said something that Dan won&#039;t respond too....hooray me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally said something that Dan won&#8217;t respond too&#8230;.hooray me!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190733</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I come here to learn.&quot;

DK, you should have been a comedian.

&quot;Who commenting on here can tell me &quot;how it is done in the real world&quot;?&quot;

Clearly, no-one could possibly have anything to teach anything to a clever little one such as yourself who has lived as long as a whole quarter of a century.  Why, we were all groping in the dark for decades until you enlightened us.

&quot;There are billions of ways that it &quot;is done&quot; in the real world.&quot;

 And you don&#039;t know any of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I come here to learn.&#8221;</p>
<p>DK, you should have been a comedian.</p>
<p>&#8220;Who commenting on here can tell me &#8220;how it is done in the real world&#8221;?&#8221;</p>
<p>Clearly, no-one could possibly have anything to teach anything to a clever little one such as yourself who has lived as long as a whole quarter of a century.  Why, we were all groping in the dark for decades until you enlightened us.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are billions of ways that it &#8220;is done&#8221; in the real world.&#8221;</p>
<p> And you don&#8217;t know any of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First rule of government spending:  Why have one when you can have two at twice the price? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First rule of government spending:  Why have one when you can have two at twice the price? <img src='http://cafehayek.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS...&quot;

...IT ONLY SATIATES THEIR FRAGILE EGO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;IT ONLY SATIATES THEIR FRAGILE EGO.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190724</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I think about how smart-n-wonderful-caring JMK was, it makes me cry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think about how smart-n-wonderful-caring JMK was, it makes me cry!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cafehayek.com/2009/11/would-productivity-fall-or-rise.html/comment-page-1#comment-190722</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha - that was LCJ.  

So frequently huh?  I&#039;d ask how you can so frequently think I so frequently do so many things, but that sort of infinite regress gets old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha &#8211; that was LCJ.  </p>
<p>So frequently huh?  I&#8217;d ask how you can so frequently think I so frequently do so many things, but that sort of infinite regress gets old.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;How, after reading all that, could you possibly think that I&#039;m advocating a top down position? I&#039;m really very curious.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Nothing I wrote suggests I think you&#039;re taking a top-down approach; it&#039;s obvious to me that you are not.  (How did you reach the conclusion I thought you were?????)

I&#039;m really very curious how you can so frequently see what&#039;s not there and miss what is in things written here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;How, after reading all that, could you possibly think that I&#8217;m advocating a top down position? I&#8217;m really very curious.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Nothing I wrote suggests I think you&#8217;re taking a top-down approach; it&#8217;s obvious to me that you are not.  (How did you reach the conclusion I thought you were?????)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really very curious how you can so frequently see what&#8217;s not there and miss what is in things written here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: &quot;How did you get that interpretation from what he wrote?????&quot;

I opened the exchange simply by saying that job sharing makes sense under certain circumstances - while I never said job sharing always make sense, john dewey said &quot;I&#039;ve heard many executives and finance managers argue that job sharing is just too expensive&quot; (completely undifferentiated with no recognition that what may make sense in some companies doesn&#039;t make sense in others - for john dewey it&#039;s &quot;just too expensive&quot;).  

I&#039;m clearly and obviously not taking a &quot;top down&quot; approach because I say repeatedly &quot;often is&quot;, &quot;right for their companies&quot;, &quot;without knowing the details of how each firm is run...&quot;, and I also list conditions under which job sharing is probably more profitable and when it is less.  It&#039;s always qualified when I write about it - sometimes it&#039;s sensible, sometimes it&#039;s not.

How, after reading all that, could you possibly think that I&#039;m advocating a top down position?  I&#039;m really very curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &#8220;How did you get that interpretation from what he wrote?????&#8221;</p>
<p>I opened the exchange simply by saying that job sharing makes sense under certain circumstances &#8211; while I never said job sharing always make sense, john dewey said &#8220;I&#8217;ve heard many executives and finance managers argue that job sharing is just too expensive&#8221; (completely undifferentiated with no recognition that what may make sense in some companies doesn&#8217;t make sense in others &#8211; for john dewey it&#8217;s &#8220;just too expensive&#8221;).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m clearly and obviously not taking a &#8220;top down&#8221; approach because I say repeatedly &#8220;often is&#8221;, &#8220;right for their companies&#8221;, &#8220;without knowing the details of how each firm is run&#8230;&#8221;, and I also list conditions under which job sharing is probably more profitable and when it is less.  It&#8217;s always qualified when I write about it &#8211; sometimes it&#8217;s sensible, sometimes it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>How, after reading all that, could you possibly think that I&#8217;m advocating a top down position?  I&#8217;m really very curious.</p>
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