The latest EconTalk is Diane Ravitch talking about education and the ideas in her recent book, The Death and Life of the Great American School System. The book and the podcast show just how bad an OK policy reform can turn out once its implemented. Testing with carrots and sticks for performance is not a horrible idea on paper. We all understand that it encourages teachers and schools to teach to the test. But it’s hard to imagine just how destructive testing and what is called “accountabilty” can be as they were actually implemented.