… is from near the two-minute, five-second mark of Juliette Sellgren’s recent Great Antidote podcast with Randy Barnett on the 14th amendment to the United States Constitution; it’s Barnett on the Constitution (emphasis original as I detect it in Barnett’s inflection):
The Constitution is the law that governs those who govern us. It’s not the law that governs us. The Constitution is the law that governs those who govern us.
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